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Old 03-03-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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Heard about it for the first time this morning, possibly starting on the 13th.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/ny...commuters.html

Thankfully Christie is hard at work on solving the problem. The problem of how to get Trump elected.
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Wayne,NJ
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They've gone 5yrs without a contract.
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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They've gone 5yrs without a contract.
yea, when you are asking for everything, it is hard to get a contract
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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Heard about it for the first time this morning, possibly starting on the 13th.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/ny...commuters.html

Thankfully Christie is hard at work on solving the problem. The problem of how to get Trump elected.
The article is more about CC and his run for president than about the strike. More than a little bias there...as expected.


The article and OP try to make CC's absence the cause of the why the stike isn't settled.


So both sides have been negotiating for months...went w/o a contract for 5 years.


"After months of tense negotiations, both sides are meeting again with federal officials in Washington on Friday to try to secure a deal."


Just another union holding the taxpayers hostage for more money that isn't there.
Went 5 years w/o a contract, let them go five more.
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Christie is supposedly a good negotiator. Usually, normal governors/mayors really pressure all sides to come up with the agreement. Even if they are not directly part of the negotiations. I've heard that Mayor Bloomberg tried to lock in MTA and relevant NYC union in the room until they had an agreement.


Of course it is easier for the Governor to fly around the country to campaign for Trump. No messy negotiations...


If this strike happens and continues for a long time, that might mean real economic pain to NJ. There isn't enough room in NJ highways to accommodate all rail passengers in buses despite the best contingency planning:
New Jersey Transit
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Old 03-03-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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Christie is supposedly a good negotiator. Usually, normal governors/mayors really pressure all sides to come up with the agreement. Even if they are not directly part of the negotiations. I've heard that Mayor Bloomberg tried to lock in MTA and relevant NYC union in the room until they had an agreement.


Of course it is easier for the Governor to fly around the country to campaign for Trump. No messy negotiations...


If this strike happens and continues for a long time, that might mean real economic pain to NJ. There isn't enough room in NJ highways to accommodate all rail passengers in buses despite the best contingency planning:
New Jersey Transit
To be fair, The only MTA strike in the last 35 years happened under Bloomberg so I wouldn't put too much faith in his tactics, even though Patakie took a lot of heat for it.
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Old 03-03-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Wayne,NJ
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yea, when you are asking for everything, it is hard to get a contract
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The article is more about CC and his run for president than about the strike. More than a little bias there...as expected.


The article and OP try to make CC's absence the cause of the why the stike isn't settled.


So both sides have been negotiating for months...went w/o a contract for 5 years.


"After months of tense negotiations, both sides are meeting again with federal officials in Washington on Friday to try to secure a deal."


Just another union holding the taxpayers hostage for more money that isn't there.
Went 5 years w/o a contract, let them go five more.
There we go, blame the union. How many here have gone without a raise in the last 5yrs?????

It's always easy to say, "Wages are too high." When you're talking about someone else, but don't cut my pay, or where's my wage.

Fares went up 9% last year, but it isn't going to wages.

The Transportation Fund is almost broke, which helps pay for road repairs and trains, CC refuses to raise the gas tax although gas is cheaper in NJ than the rest of the tri-state area.

Maybe it's more like NJ Transit is trying to hold the union members hostage, since a mediation board appointed by the President recommended an increase of 17% in wages over 6 1/2 years with the union members increasing the contributions to health care of up to 2.5%.
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:04 PM
 
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To be fair, The only MTA strike in the last 35 years happened under Bloomberg so I wouldn't put too much faith in his tactics, even though Patakie took a lot of heat for it.

Do you know the reason why MTA strikes are so rare? It is because such job actions are illegal under NYS law... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Law




http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...ticle-1.616088


Each time the TWU has struck against the MTA both New York City and State officials have made them *pay* hard and long.


The only mass transit who can strike in NYS is Metro-North RR because they are just that, a railroad cobbled together from the remains of several private railroads that went bankrupt; Penn-Central, New Haven, etc....
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:37 PM
 
Location: JC
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yea, when you are asking for everything, it is hard to get a contract
Spread out it appears to be a cost of living wage increase.

Meanwhile The PA had no trouble spending $4B to build a boondoggle of a train station.
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:58 PM
 
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If the Federal so-called mediators weren't simply saying "give the unions what they want", maybe it wouldn't have come to this.
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