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Sorry I have to disagree NYC lowered the starting salary for new police recruits
They have had many many drop out as they can't afford to live where required on the salary. I've also read the recruits are not the creme de la creme of the crop either.
I don't know what you've read, but nypd recruits, imho, have *never* been the creme de la creme.
Additionally, this is *not* NYC. This is New Jersey. The COL in NYC is far and above the COL in NJ. Additionally, with the number of people trying their best to become cops, then I'd say the supply is pretty high. Just look at the numbers on the civil service tests.
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Maybe I'm an oddball but I have no problem compensating someone who puts their life at risk every hour on the job to keep my community as safe as possible. I also do not begrudge the teachers given what they have to put up with every day.Even if it means their perks are better then mine in the private sector
Without typing out many paragraphs, all I can say is, I've addressed all this elsewhere.
I don't mind paying those who deserve it. I mind paying too much, too soon, with too many privileges.
[quote=doc1;2819577]The idea of getting to use overtime to jack up a pension is ludicrous. Don't be misinformed the pension is based on our final base pay. You cannot JACK up your pension with overtime.
The idea of getting to use overtime to jack up a pension is ludicrous. Don't be misinformed the pension is based on our final base pay. You cannot JACK up your pension with overtime.
I don't know what you've read, but nypd recruits, imho, have *never* been the creme de la creme.
Additionally, this is *not* NYC. This is New Jersey. The COL in NYC is far and above the COL in NJ. Additionally, with the number of people trying their best to become cops, then I'd say the supply is pretty high. Just look at the numbers on the civil service tests.
Without typing out many paragraphs, all I can say is, I've addressed all this elsewhere.
I don't mind paying those who deserve it. I mind paying too much, too soon, with too many privileges.
because the post was about NY not having the fiscal problems we have in NJ
I will point out NYC recruits may live in any of the 5 boroughs, Westchester, Orange and I believe Rockland counties.
They had to have a 4 year degree which I believe has been lowered to a 2 years degree as the pool is getting smaller with the pay cut for starting recruits.
You don't get a payout for good attendence you get compensated for unused sick & vacation time which is accruable...for the other poster who stated this
because the post was about NY not having the fiscal problems we have in NJ
Right, but a budgeted surplus doesn't make it a good idea (because it still has to be budgeted).
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I will point out NYC recruits may live in any of the 5 boroughs, Westchester, Orange and I believe Rockland counties.
They had to have a 4 year degree which I believe has been lowered to a 2 years degree as the pool is getting smaller with the pay cut for starting recruits.
Or 2 years active service in the military. With education becoming more specialized (ie: associate's degrees in criminal justice), I don't see why thats an issue.
Also, a $14,000 drop in pay from 2005 to 2006 is not, what I'd call, a bright idea. Thats a 36% drop. A little bit... drastic from year to year, especially when easier positions are available elsewhere (ie: suburbs) where pay is appropriate (I don't consider $25k/yr appropriate. $30k, sure, but not $25k).
The current starting salary for a trooper is $58,748.29 (including uniform allowance). The second-year total compensation jumps to $65,662.39. Top pay for a Trooper I is $97,188.48. Troopers receive yearly increments. All recruits receive $777.78 every two weeks, plus overtime pay. Room and board are also provided while training.
Newark *cadets* get $31,000/yr. I forget the increases though. I believe starting (out of the academy) was $37k, second year, $46k - someone please correct me if I'm mistaken, the raises are off the top of my head.
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