Is Springfield, NJ one of the few true middle class towns left? (Union: health insurance, home)

[averysgore]

Originally Posted by Shoshanarose

Springfield sounds nice.
Once concern I have about Springfield: are there are a lot of Trump supporters?

Let's ask the map:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._graduated.svg

Springfield appears to be light blue (it's a town mostly surrounded by blue but has a light red town to its southwest, Mountainside I believe). So a majority but not overwhelming majority Clinton win.

To me most suburban towns inside I-287 don't feel overwhelmingly liberal or conservative. There are exceptions of course. It's the urban areas that make NJ a solid blue state.

[CdotSmith]

Originally Posted by Shoshanarose

Springfield sounds nice.
Once concern I have about Springfield: are there are a lot of Trump supporters?

If it is, you wouldn't know. The current mayor she is a Democrat, the last couple of mayors have been (R).

I barely could tell the difference. It's not super liberal say like Maplewood or Montclair, but it's not hardcore Conservative either.

It's a real chill town, the only issue is JCP&L. When it snows hard, the lights go out quick.

[jobaba]

Springfield isn't true middle class.

Maybe if you only count people who were born in America, it is.

The 2010 median HH income is 85K, which is the same as Parsippany, and Parsippany ain't middle class.

True middle class is more like Dunnellen.

[DannyHobkins]

Originally Posted by Shoshanarose

Springfield sounds nice.
Once concern I have about Springfield: are there are a lot of Trump supporters?

What is wrong with Trump supporters? The idea of renegotiating Trade deals, lowering taxes, fetal rights, and removing illegal immigrants scare you? Trump neighborhoods sounds like a great place to live if you ask me.

[Shoshanarose]

Originally Posted by DannyHobkins

What is wrong with Trump supporters? The idea of renegotiating Trade deals, lowering taxes, fetal rights, and removing illegal immigrants scare you? Trump neighborhoods sounds like a great place to live if you ask me.

Lowering taxes for who?

And I'm more interested in the quality of life for adults and children already here, than for fetuses. But that's just me.

I'd also like to avoid war and maintain our international alliances (or at least avoid alienating our allies).

And I don't appreciate my president embarrassing us on the world stage, bragging about assaulting women, and appointing a rapist to the Supreme Court.

[G1..]

Originally Posted by CdotSmith

This is Springfield, I seen house listed up to 1 million. The houses by the Golf Course(The PGA Championship is being played here this year) are sheesh.

IMO Springfield neighbor Millburn is a majority Upper Middle Class town (housing prices, probably more NYC lawyers and bankers, Essex count taxes, more $300,000+ a year earners) and Shorts Hills, which is in Millburn, is the wealthy town(think Hedge Fund Managers, a couple Billionaires).

Then Springfield other neighbor Summit, where Eli Manning lives and Rex Ryan used to live, is like $350,000 small homes to 2 million dollar homes.

Millburn / Short Hills are one .You name people who live in Summit why not name people in every town?Can you tell us what"middle class is" ,.........exactly?

[Kthnry]

Or try these:

https://www.state.nj.us/state/electi...ults-essex.pdf

https://www.state.nj.us/state/electi...ults-union.pdf

Springfield went for Hillary, but not overwhelmingly.

[vision33r]

Originally Posted by Shoshanarose

Lowering taxes for who?

And I'm more interested in the quality of life for adults and children already here, than for fetuses. But that's just me.

I'd also like to avoid war and maintain our international alliances (or at least avoid alienating our allies).

And I don't appreciate my president embarrassing us on the world stage, bragging about assaulting women, and appointing a rapist to the Supreme Court.

You know what's funny was that back in 2010, Obama was talking about fortifying the wall and GOP congress was not interested at all after they sweeped Congress and took the House back. Then Obama was talking about freedom in the middle east by helping rebels in different middle east countries against regimes in Egypt, Syria, and pulling troops out of Iraq. Thus the creation of ISIS and destabilized the region ever since.

I know Obama got a nobel peace prize for whatever reason, I still don't understand. The man along with Hillary Clinton has so much muslim blood on their hands including the Bushes. I voted for Obama but never again, his administration has so much incompetence and ineptitude covered up by the media. The same media is going for blood against Trump. Trump hasn't caused any deaths or destruction in any foreign countries, YET.

Hillary Clinton has done more evil to women as Arkansas Prosecutor with husband Governor Bill Clinton than Justice Kavanaugh ever has. It's sad that you are a brainwashed liberal, I admit I was also brainwashed by the media but no more.

[sheena12]

Originally Posted by MemoryMaker

She probably doesn't wanna get ran over by some big Ford F150 pick up truck with a dolly parton bikini air freshener over the rear-view mirror.

At least the pink-haired SJW's driving the little Subaru's with coexist bumper stickers can't do any harm..

Yes. Pretty much that would be the concern. And I don't have pink hair - but one of my best fried's does. I did have a "COEXIST" sticker, and a car similar to a Subaru and I was almost run off the road in NE PA.

There is a difference. Most of us don't get aggressive. I understand why this has been a concern at this point in time.

[vinodelotus]

Originally Posted by jobaba

Springfield isn't true middle class.

Maybe if you only count people who were born in America, it is.

The 2010 median HH income is 85K, which is the same as Parsippany, and Parsippany ain't middle class.

True middle class is more like Dunnellen.

In NJ that is absolutely middle class. Parsippany is middle class, Dunnellen is middle class, they are just different types of middle class. Neither is upper nor lower class. Springfield is also middle class.