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Old 09-17-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Not in favor of it. I like to gamble, but prefer it as a weekend trip rather then something just to do on a random night and then go home.

Real problem with the referendum is that it allocates all of the tax money from the casinos for senior citizens and the disabled for some reason. Not a very good use of the money to use it exclusively on two special interest groups
its disgusting. this should be treated like any other tax revenue but because of politics they play stupid games. nobody should have the power to deny casinos from opening anywhere. people love having their little power and say in what other people can or cant do. the government should stay out of it. let private business pay for it and let it succeed or fail without government involvement.
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Old 09-17-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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If they going to build a casino, and want to create jobs, then why not just fix Atlantic City? It is already a better location.
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Old 09-17-2016, 04:03 PM
 
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AC failed because other states built casinos closer to the major population centers. Think Foxwoods / Mohegan Sun in CT, Sands, Parks, and others in PA, Something in DE. Basically a ring of casinos were built around AC that are choking it out of existence.

Casinos in JC and/or the Meadowlands would reverse this, take a large hunk out of the business that's going to those states, and keep/bring it into NJ. If NJ wants a viable gaming industry, with the tax revenue and jobs it brings, it has to do this.

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If theybarw going to build a casino, make it family friendly. AC failed because it is anti-family. There is absolutely nothing to do beside gambling.

I think it was last year I went there for July 4th firework. It was a Saturday and it rain and it was cancelled and rescheduled to MONDAY'S NIGHT. I guess the reason for the casino was, the gambler love the firework so much, they will stay and gamble two more day to see the firework. Major $$$. Me and a lot of family left Sunday morning.

That was the last time I was there.
Because they can't just undock AC off from where it is now, float it up the coast to Sandy Hook, tie it up there, and build a bridge to Brooklyn. There's nothing they can do to AC that would make up for it's location problem, short of banning legal gambling anywhere else it the northeast.

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If they going to build a casino, and want to create jobs, then why not just fix Atlantic City? It is already a better location.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: NJ
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AC failed because other states built casinos closer to the major population centers.
it failed because corrupt government protected its monopoly over gambling in nj so they never improved. when competition came along, it was too late for them.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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its disgusting. this should be treated like any other tax revenue but because of politics they play stupid games. nobody should have the power to deny casinos from opening anywhere. people love having their little power and say in what other people can or cant do. the government should stay out of it. let private business pay for it and let it succeed or fail without government involvement.
I went to Blackhawk Colorado once and its this little historic town with a ton of small casinos in it. A casino in this town can be as little as only a few thousand feet big. Its pretty cool and very different. Not sure why in Atlantic City every casino needs to be a massive operation. If they let the little guy operate in a similar way, could get some more innovation and competition in AC.

Personally gambling does not interest me as a local activity unless we are talking sports, but I dont have any qualms about allowing it in the northern part of the state if done right. My issue with this bill is that any revenue gained by the state is earmarked for senior citizens and the disabled. For what purpose? Should go towards something that everyone can benefit from.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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For what purpose? Should go towards something that everyone can benefit from.
politics. just like lottery revenue going to education. makes something undesirable to some more palatable so it can win the vote. it doesnt really matter, all government money is fungible no matter how many times interested parties claim otherwise. if this money goes to seniors & disabled, money that would have otherwise gone there will be spent elsewhere.
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:55 PM
 
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AC failed because other states built casinos closer to the major population centers. Think Foxwoods / Mohegan Sun in CT, Sands, Parks, and others in PA, Something in DE. Basically a ring of casinos were built around AC that are choking it out of existence.

Casinos in JC and/or the Meadowlands would reverse this, take a large hunk out of the business that's going to those states, and keep/bring it into NJ. If NJ wants a viable gaming industry, with the tax revenue and jobs it brings, it has to do this.



Because they can't just undock AC off from where it is now, float it up the coast to Sandy Hook, tie it up there, and build a bridge to Brooklyn. There's nothing they can do to AC that would make up for it's location problem, short of banning legal gambling anywhere else it the northeast.
AC has the best location. It is on the beach, inbetween Philly, Bodymore Murdaland, DC, and NYC. If you are talking about the people that actually live there, well, that is another discussion.
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:49 PM
 
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That works until each of those cities each get casinos closer than AC, which is exactly what happened.

NJ Should not only put casinos in the JC/Secaucus are, but also in Camden and the Ramsey / Mahwah area.
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Old 09-18-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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nj should simply eliminate itself from the process and any business that wishes to offer gambling should be allowed to. same as if you wanted to sell umbrellas or sandwiches.
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Old 09-18-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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Not quite. Some level of regulation is necessary. But regulating location isn't one of them.

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nj should simply eliminate itself from the process and any business that wishes to offer gambling should be allowed to. same as if you wanted to sell umbrellas or sandwiches.
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