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Old 07-25-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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I have no idea where you are getting your information, but it has been proven time and time again that conversion therapy does not work. It has been proven that trying to make someone something they do not identify with can be psychologically damaging to the point of being life threatening.


Please stop with the 17th Century Puritanical views. BTW, bloodletting doesn't work either.

Bull feces. There is a new thing out: It is called ENDURING.


When you are born blind, you live with it and adjust to it, you don't declare yourself sighted.


When you have a car accident and your legs are amputated, your NFL career is over. Doesn't matter what you want. Doesn't matter what you feel. You are legless. Reality. Adjust. Endure.


When you are a born a man, and you have a penis, and every chromosome in your body is male, you are a male. Period. Doesn't matter what you feel. Doesn't matter what you want. You can't simply declare yourself a female. It's not REALITY.


Bruce Jenner is NOT A FEMALE. And he will never be a female. By attempting to cheat reality, all he has accomplished is looking like an incredibly creepy and confused something or other.


So what do you do if you have this problem? You accept REALITY. You are your sex. If you don't like it? Too bad. YOU ENDURE. You get counselling. You distract yourself. You do your career. You help others. You live and vacation and plant roses and fix your car. YOU ENDURE. That's life. You are what you are. You don't inflict yourself on others by becoming a Creepy Crawler.


We've become weak and forgotten how to ENDURE!
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Old 07-25-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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^ Why do you care so much?
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Old 07-25-2017, 03:58 PM
 
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this is a nonissue

funding, fixing, and expanding njtransit and fixing nj cities is more important.
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Old 07-25-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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^ Why do you care so much?
Because this "escape from reality" approach is permeating all aspects of public policy and will eventually lead to the destruction of our society. That's why. This issue by itself is trivial stupidity but it does not take place in a vacuum. We already make believe that alcoholism and drug abuse are "illnesses" rather than character defects. We already assign ADD to any kid with energy and see no problem with obliterating their consciousness with Ritalin and other drugs. And now we are going to allow people with a psychotic fracture from reality who need psychiatric care to change public policy to conform to their illness? No. Normalizing psychosis is not in the best interest of our country or society. Treating it is.
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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I bet the posters who find this subject stupid are among those who voted for Trump.
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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I bet the posters who find this subject stupid are mostly white straight guys.
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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I bet the posters who find this subject stupid are mostly white straight guys.
Reality does not care who observes it. It simply is.
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:24 PM
 
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Reality does not care who observes it. It simply is.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...he_Tao_of_Pooh
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:17 AM
 
Location: NJ & NV
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A Trans Bathroom Rights Bill ????My transmission now has the right to go to the bathroom??? Hmmm Does it matter if its automatic or regular or,,,, hydraglide ? Before this I think Trans were so confused they would just dump all their fluid wherever they did ohhhh craaaap
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:41 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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So what's next? Schizophrenic rights? Bipolar rights? We are talking about making believe a mental illness is not a mental illness. That declaring that reality is NOT reality, is something that should be "protected". That declaring that one may arbitrarily state what their gender is, regardless of reality.


It's patently insane. But guess what, insane people will soon be on the list of groups demanding rights also, so get ready for it.


Bruce Jenner was born a man and a male, Bruce Jenner is now a man and a male, and Bruce Jenner will die a man and a male. It doesn't matter if he changes his name, or undergoes surgical mutilation, or goes on talk shows wearing a white dress, or wears a white dress from now until his funeral.


The Law of Identity is immutable, a thing is what it is. And Bruce Jenner is who he is. Period.
Totally.

Excellent post, thank you.
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