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Old 12-30-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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If you read the history of the train tunnels under the Hudson they were built by private industry, the railroads. Why is this now supposed to be public works. I can't see NY and NJ taxpayers footing the bill with bond sales.
Those railroads went out of business, but we still need to move people. The tunnel and tracks are public infrastructure now.
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Old 12-30-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Cuomo, Charles Schumer and Corey Booker want nothing to do with President Trump. Screw em.. use the money on projects in areas where the voters support you.
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Old 12-30-2017, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Cuomo, Charles Schumer and Corey Booker want nothing to do with President Trump. Screw em.. use the money on projects in areas where the voters support you.
Must pledge allegiance to Supreme Leader or else, eh?
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Must pledge allegiance to Supreme Leader, eh?
So better to oppose him on everything, attack and denounce him and bash him but then expect him to give you everything you ask for?
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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So better to oppose him on everything, attack and denounce him and bash him but then expect him to give you everything you ask for?
What? No.

This should not be about who kisses whose a$$. This is a project of national significance for the betterment of the regional and national economy.
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Old 12-30-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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What? No.

This should not be about who kisses whose a$$. This is a project of national significance for the betterment of the regional and national economy.
No one said anything about ass kissing. In fact, NY/NJ politicians have been nothing but hateful of Trump with their rhetoric. Murphy attacked Trump and even ran on the platform of being a sanctuary state just to spite Trump. His campaign slogan was “fight Trump, vote Murphy.” Schumer, Cuomo, DeBlasio, Booker, etc. take shots at Trump at any chance they get. They are sending a message that they are hostile to anything Trump.

If you are going to be this hostile to the administration, you must be nuts to then expect them to hand you everything you want. Even your beloved Obama did nothing for this region and he had eight years to.

There is no national significance to helping NYC and NJ. Many of the industries of this area can readily and easily be replicated in other areas of this country. It will not be missed. In fact Chicago is already salivating at taking over for Wall Street. Anything in NJ can totally be done anywhere else, and probably cheaper and better too. Many large companies have already moved out to greener pastures over the past half century.
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Old 12-30-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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For those working in Manhattan, sometimes I wonder if living in Westchester or Brooklyn or Long Island is better than Bergen or other counties of NJ. None of this tunnel bottleneck issue.

Plus also no double taxation. I know NJ gives credit for NY taxes but sometimes we still end up owing NJ taxes. And you never know. NJ might stop giving credit for NY taxes.
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Old 12-30-2017, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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If you read the history of the train tunnels under the Hudson they were built by private industry, the railroads. Why is this now supposed to be public works. I can't see NY and NJ taxpayers footing the bill with bond sales.
The project, or part of it, could be a P3.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1AQ2J8
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Old 12-30-2017, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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It's "that" for this particular federal deal, not for the project. The Gateway tunnel will be built.
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Old 12-30-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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Those railroads went out of business, but we still need to move people. The tunnel and tracks are public infrastructure now.

Then the federal government should pay for it. Not the people of NY and NJ..
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