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Old 03-25-2008, 12:42 PM
 
Location: High Bridge
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Unfortunately, apvbguy's right. Those points are swarmed with police coverage on the nights of events, and thats all there is to it. Its not a good place to run at night. The Ironbound section is safer, but I still wouldn't call it safe during a late night run.

I'd follow the recommendations of the others and look to some of the better areas surrounding Newark - there is a decent amount of public transportation available, and you'll be able to better enjoy your hobby.
The ironbound section is bad too. The demographics just change a little bit that's all.
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:03 PM
 
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The Ironbound is not bad at all. I've lived there all my life and the only time it might've been anywhere near "bad" was in the early to mid 90's. And even then, it wasn't bad. It's amazing how easily the media can get people to believe anything.
 
Old 03-25-2008, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Atlantic Highlands NJ/Ponte Vedra FL/NYC
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The Ironbound is not bad at all. I've lived there all my life and the only time it might've been anywhere near "bad" was in the early to mid 90's. And even then, it wasn't bad. It's amazing how easily the media can get people to believe anything.
It's good that you have pride in where you live but the poor perception that newark has is well deserved, those of us who fled places like that for suburbia have a much different take on things.
25 years ago newark had over 500k people now it has less than 250k people, people have voted with their feet and undoing 40+ years of the deterioration of the city will not be undone by a performing arts building or a hockey rink
 
Old 03-25-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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It's good that you have pride in where you live but the poor perception that newark has is well deserved, those of us who fled places like that for suburbia have a much different take on things.
25 years ago newark had over 500k people now it has less than 250k people, people have voted with their feet and undoing 40+ years of the deterioration of the city will not be undone by a performing arts building or a hockey rink
Not to be a stickler: but Newark never had over 500k, and the population decline ended in 2000. Figures report that the pop. is about 281,000+ as of 2006 (from a 260,000 low). But still, yes the population isn't as high as it once was
 
Old 03-25-2008, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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What does population decline have to do with a city's quality-of-life? They are two independent factors. Scranton has always had a wonderful quality-of-life as well, yet our population has declined from 145,000 to 70,000 and is still dropping steadily. There are some suburban havens near me like Clarks Summit, Dallas, and West Pittston that are all also losing population due to the allure of newer urban sprawl on their peripheries.
 
Old 03-25-2008, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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and this conclusion is based on what?
we all know you are a young immature idealist who loves dumpy urban places. Those of us who have a bit more experience, have families to be concerned about know better than to even consider an urban jungle as a place to live and raise a family. Enjoy yourself, and one day when you grow up a bit, have a family, have more responsibility placed on you you'll see the light
...and we all know YOU are a chronic pessimist who loves to bash places and people at every waking opportunity. What's your point? If you'd read my reply in the other thread about Newark you'd also see that I don't advocate FAMILIES moving to Newark but rather urban pioneers---empty-nesters, grad students, young professionals, etc. moving to Downtown Newark to help spur a renaissance from the core outwards. What do you mean by "see the light?" Would this "light" be "life sucks?"
 
Old 03-25-2008, 01:50 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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It's good that you have pride in where you live but the poor perception that newark has is well deserved, those of us who fled places like that for suburbia have a much different take on things.
25 years ago newark had over 500k people now it has less than 250k people, people have voted with their feet and undoing 40+ years of the deterioration of the city will not be undone by a performing arts building or a hockey rink
Come on now, you're posting that Newark lost MORE THAN HALF its population. I'm not a big fan of Newark but this statement is completely false. I go maybe once a month to Newark, either a portugese rest., Devils or a show at the performing arts center and I'm not scared for my life. I wouldn't venture to far off the beaten path but some posters are making it sound more dangerous than Baghdad during the beginning of the war.
 
Old 03-25-2008, 02:04 PM
 
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Some posters are making it sound more dangerous than Baghdad during the beginning of the war.

Hey blame it on - Imamu Amiri Baraka and his son Ras Baraka. The Baraka family basically "started" the Newark Riots and you got Ras Baraka sitting on the city council. Yuck! Sad Sad Sad.



Ras Baraka
Barak Obama

hey, i see a similiarity.
 
Old 03-25-2008, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Atlantic Highlands NJ/Ponte Vedra FL/NYC
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Not to be a stickler: but Newark never had over 500k, and the population decline ended in 2000. Figures report that the pop. is about 281,000+ as of 2006 (from a 260,000 low). But still, yes the population isn't as high as it once was
you're right I stand corrected, but I wasn't too far off as evidenced by this which shows the population peaking at almost 450k


17901,000
18006,000
183010,953
184017,290
185038,894
186071,941
1870105,05
1880136,508
1890181,830
1900246,070
1910347,469
1920414,524
1930442,337
1940429,760
1950438,776
1960405,220
1970381,930
1980329,248
1990275,221
2000273,546
Est. 2006281,402
 
Old 03-25-2008, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Ras Baraka
Barak Obama

hey, i see a similiarity.
Ann Coulter
Fanny Holder

I see a similarity too! Can I have a cookie now?
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