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Old 07-02-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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This is not a Jersey thing, this is happening everywhere. Tons of people are shopping online these days including all ages. This is shameful. Well, then you have teenagers who can't buy things online yet, so they'd be the only people to use the mall as a hangout spot. As you know, Toys 'R' Us officially closed down all its stores recently.

Before malls in the US closed, it really started off with anchor stores closing down on a whim of locations. Macy's is an example of an anchor store that had many closings in many locations.

I go to the Livingston Mall pretty often. I've noticed that Sears will definitely not pay their employees over the exact NJ minimum wage. Every time I go to Sears, the clothes are either left balled up from before, and the same exact clothes are left in the same positions from before usually. One time, I thought that Sears was closing down when I noticed a patch of the women's section and a patch of the men's section was completely empty. Well, they were just expanding the sections, because each gender section had clothes cluttered. So I guess they decided to take the remaining clothes and make them more spaced out. I always worry that this particular mall will close down. I've noticed that the parking lot is so huge, parking lot never had maintenance in my lifetime, and the parking lot is supposed to have more lines, but they were never repainted. This mall is a great mall, but I feel that it is deteriorating and going down.

I've been on the NJ section of this website and I've heard an old person on here say they don't even go to malls anymore, because they said NJ's malls became "ghetto" compared to how it was in their time. (I'd guess I'd have to agree, since there is so much transportation from Newark and the Oranges to these malls.)

Do you think malls in NJ will close down and what would they do with the land?
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Levittown
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Burlington is the latest to close. And it was a hole for a long time. I think mostly malls will just evolve. We need more than just retail at a mall. Add some fine dining and entertainment and malls will bounce back.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Burlington is the latest to close. And it was a hole for a long time. I think mostly malls will just evolve. We need more than just retail at a mall. Add some fine dining and entertainment and malls will bounce back.
Rockaway Mall is a "perfect" mall. They have a movie theater and fine dining. The only problem is you have to walk far or drive to from building to building.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Levittown
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Rockaway Mall is a "perfect" mall. They have a movie theater and fine dining. The only problem is you have to walk far or drive to from building to building.
Does the Macy's there still have Muldoon's?
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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Does the Macy's there still have Muldoon's?
I haven't been to Rockaway Mall in a while, but according to the Muldoon's reviews, they are still open.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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my prediction is that standalone malls will die slowly. malls needs to innovate and transform itself into an entertainment hub/shopping center or they will die. malls combined with movie theater, fine dinning /micro brewery/ kids entertainment will continue to attract customers because people needs to go somewhere to have fun.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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my prediction is that standalone malls will die slowly. malls needs to innovate and transform itself into an entertainment hub/shopping center or they will die. malls combined with movie theater, fine dinning /micro brewery/ kids entertainment will continue to attract customers because people needs to go somewhere to have fun.
Besides the stuff you are mentioning, I'd recommend malls should attract tourists too. Malls should sell souvenirs or at least have displays of stuff that are unique to the state (kind of like a museum). I'm pretty sure NYCers would like to come to the mall if they had touristy things related to NJ.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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New stores are opening everyday. .. Malls are where people hangout on the weekends.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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This is not a Jersey thing, this is happening everywhere. Tons of people are shopping online these days including all ages. This is shameful. Well, then you have teenagers who can't buy things online yet, so they'd be the only people to use the mall as a hangout spot. As you know, Toys 'R' Us officially closed down all its stores recently.

Before malls in the US closed, it really started off with anchor stores closing down on a whim of locations. Macy's is an example of an anchor store that had many closings in many locations.

I go to the Livingston Mall pretty often. I've noticed that Sears will definitely not pay their employees over the exact NJ minimum wage. Every time I go to Sears, the clothes are either left balled up from before, and the same exact clothes are left in the same positions from before usually. One time, I thought that Sears was closing down when I noticed a patch of the women's section and a patch of the men's section was completely empty. Well, they were just expanding the sections, because each gender section had clothes cluttered. So I guess they decided to take the remaining clothes and make them more spaced out. I always worry that this particular mall will close down. I've noticed that the parking lot is so huge, parking lot never had maintenance in my lifetime, and the parking lot is supposed to have more lines, but they were never repainted. This mall is a great mall, but I feel that it is deteriorating and going down.

I've been on the NJ section of this website and I've heard an old person on here say they don't even go to malls anymore, because they said NJ's malls became "ghetto" compared to how it was in their time. (I'd guess I'd have to agree, since there is so much transportation from Newark and the Oranges to these malls.)

Do you think malls in NJ will close down and what would they do with the land?
That's just the Livingston.

Several malls in the state are healthy and thriving. Off the top of my head, Garden State Plaza, Willowbrook Menlo Park, and Monmouth.

For one thing, buying clothes online is risky because if it doesn't fit, then you have to return it and they usually charge a shipping fee.

Also, going to malls is just part of human entertainment. Sure, it's not the most fun thing in the world. But it's something people do for fun. Go shopping for clothes, eat food, and drink coffee.

People could totally get all of the stuff they buy at Target online too, but there's a certain human element to going there, and going through the motions.

For most people. In any case, for that reason, retail will survive.

And this is coming from a person who goes to the mall to try on clothes and then checks online to see if I can find it cheaper.

Retail will never be like it was during it's peak at the turn of the century. But it will never come close to dying.
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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malls will not all close down. they will have to adapt and offer more experiences and entertainment mixed in with shopping. also being combined with residential on the same property would be helpful.
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