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Old 11-14-2018, 05:29 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Rutgers still has a football team???


That went out the window with Shiano.


So the point of a RU football team is to collect Big Ten money and not actually play competitive football???


So much for Rutgers overall reputation.


Focus on crew and archery instead. Fewer life long nagging injuries involved.
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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What does deals with Adidas, and Nike do for students, state or community? Are we all getting dividends? RU is now being run like a for profit business. Naming rights, same thing.
They contribute to President Barchi's goal to make athletics revenue-positive. That means a reduction (or perhaps no) student fees going to athletics and a reduction (or perhaps no) "institutional support" going to athletics. That's money back in students' pockets.
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Old 11-14-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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With respect to football, Indiana, Rutgers and Maryland are the designated bottom feeders in the Big Ten East. Their role is to fight for 4th place and get a bid to a low tier bowl game that no one watches, either in person or on TV. These three schools have no winning football tradition (although Maryland did win a national championship 60+ years ago and 9 ACC conference championships).

By contrast, Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State are three of the kings of college football. They have tradition, hardcore t-shirt paying fans, alumni support, donors and large, 100,000 capacity venues that regularly sell out. Just take a look at the revenues reported by Big Ten East schools. Per USA Today, revenues reported by Big Ten East schools for 2016-17 year:

Ohio State: $185M
Michigan: $185M
Penn State: $144M
Mich State: $126M
Indiana: $106M
Rutgers: $96M*
Maryland: $94M

* Includes $11M student fees and $21M school funds.

NCAA | Finances | USA TODAY Sports

The kings don't rely on TV money, student fees and school funds like the bottom feeders. They get their money from ticket-buying fans and contributions from alumni and other donors. Do you think the donors, fans and alumni of the three kings are going to allow the bottom feeders to challenge the kings' control and domination of the Big Ten East? Of course not. Perhaps a bottom feeder will slip through and win the division like Northwestern did this year. But that happens infrequently.
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:57 PM
 
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They contribute to President Barchi's goal to make athletics revenue-positive. That means a reduction (or perhaps no) student fees going to athletics and a reduction (or perhaps no) "institutional support" going to athletics. That's money back in students' pockets.
So if we not in big time athletics, we never have to spend that money in the first place, so no need to try and get some of that money back anyways.

The students should just do intramurals, and go watch professional.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:11 AM
 
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we should be putting this money into science and funding on how to make Nj cutting edge.


Football will only give you health problems.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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we should be putting this money into science and funding on how to make Nj cutting edge.


Football will only give you health problems.
CTE research will keep NJ churning out top level football players.
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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As a member of the Big Ten Conference, Rutgers will collect over $50 million a year in conference revenue, once it starts getting a full share by 2021. By comparison, members of the American Athletic Conference (Rutgers' previous conference home) get between $3-8 million. FCS conferences distribute almost no revenue to their members.

Also, joining the Big Ten prompted Rutgers to merge with UMDNJ and has ignited a ton of new research opportunities and funding. It has raised the profile of Rutgers as an institution across the board. I don't yet know if the value of those academic changes has been monetized in any reports, but it would be interesting to see.

In sum, joining the Big Ten has been a golden ticket for Rutgers. Even if football and basketball struggle for a few more years, in the long run you can't turn away from the windfall.



Why should anyone be encouraged to help those programs? Lol



He was a co-DC at tOSU and an unproven candidate for head coach. To say he has his pick anywhere is just not the case, at least not at the P5 level. And he has shown over the past three seasons that he's not very capable of developing players. He's shown that he has no competence managing any aspect of the offense (including having any inkling about who should run the offense as OC). And despite being a co-DC at tOSU, his DC pick at RU has been terrible. In short, Ash was a gamble, and he's been failing. I don't think his stock is high in the marketplace.



Ash is still owed over $10 million. I'd be surprised if he's canned this year. I'm almost certain RU would have no interest in Diaco whatsoever.

Finally, someone with a clue what he or she is talking about. The OP should self-ban for how foolish and misinformed he or she is.
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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This money RU gets from B1G help with free books, free tuition, free boarding, free cafeteria passes?

Cause if not, then no it is not necessary.
Good to see the Rutgers 1000 is alive and think it's well. Say hi to Prof. Dowling!
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Old 11-20-2018, 10:51 PM
 
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Finally, someone with a clue what he or she is talking about. The OP should self-ban for how foolish and misinformed he or she is.
Stop shilling, only write something useful

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Good to see the Rutgers 1000 is alive and think it's well. Say hi to Prof. Dowling!
What on Earth are you talking about?
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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Lets be honest, the only thing College Football is just a recruiting tool to keep a brand image for recruiting students into the college. Honestly when I went to Rutgers barely knew that there was a football team there. The school has focused heavily in recruiting foreign students, over working on its football team to bring in patriotic Americans.
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