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Old 11-04-2020, 02:09 PM
 
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I'm stunned people would vote for this. That said, Oregon does have the third highest addiction rate in the country. It will certainly be attractive to live in Oregon if you do any of the said drugs.

I'm curious if anyone who supports this feels any trepidation about being on the road with someone who might have taken LSD, etc. Is anyone concerned that there is a danger of motor vehicle accidents rising? I'm also curious to see if auto insurance rates will go up.
How would it be any different now? Do you think people are going to be more or less emboldened to drive under the influence now than they would be if it was illegal? Why?
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:10 PM
 
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I don't have any hopes that people who are taking these hard drugs are interested in treatment.
Marijuana is not a hard drug, and the use of it rarely requires treatment.

If you are referring to Oregon and thinks like heroin or cocaine, then why do you not have any hopes that people who are using those drugs are interested in treatment? There are thousands of people in recovery from those drugs because they WERE interested in treatment. You are going to sit there and tell me you don't know even ONE former heroin addict or cocaine user now in recovery?
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:12 PM
 
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Marijuana is not a hard drug, and the use of it rarely requires treatment.
I agree it is not a hard drug. I am thinking about hard drugs, for example, what Oregon is decriminalizing.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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I agree it is not a hard drug. I am thinking about hard drugs, for example, what Oregon is decriminalizing.
OK, I added to my post after realizing you meant what Oregon did.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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From a person who used to smoke back in the 70's, my big concern now is how many will be driving while stoned.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:51 PM
 
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From a person who used to smoke back in the 70's, my big concern now is how many will be driving while stoned.
If you live in Ocean County--as I surmise... feel free to correct me if I am wrong--you should be much more concerned with how many people are driving while under the influence of Opiates or Opioids. Or, are you not aware that your county has NJ's worst per-capita problem in regard to those HARD drugs?

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Old 11-04-2020, 08:09 PM
 
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From a person who used to smoke back in the 70's, my big concern now is how many will be driving while stoned.
Do you think more than now? Why?
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Old 11-04-2020, 08:25 PM
 
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So are we supposed to lose our rights because of other people's bad behavior?
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Old 11-04-2020, 08:28 PM
 
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So are we supposed to lose our rights because of other people's bad behavior?
We already lost all our rights because of a virus; there's nothing left to lose.
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:52 AM
 
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I'm stunned people would vote for this. That said, Oregon does have the third highest addiction rate in the country. It will certainly be attractive to live in Oregon if you do any of the said drugs.

I'm curious if anyone who supports this feels any trepidation about being on the road with someone who might have taken LSD, etc. Is anyone concerned that there is a danger of motor vehicle accidents rising? I'm also curious to see if auto insurance rates will go up.
LSD is not legal to buy anywhere. Decriminalization means you won't go to jail for it, but no drugs are going to be sold legally in stores except pot. In Oregon mushrooms are legal when used under the supervision of a trained facilitator. If you google you will see they are finding almost miraculous results treating depression and PTSD using it. Some drug companies are using it as a base for a new generation of depression meds. But countless people with PTSD and other mental illnesses have seen their lives turned around from one session.

It will be better for everyone in Oregon than it was when those who used hard drugs were jailed. Now they choose between $100 fine that goes to treatment facilities) or getting an intake assessment at an addiction clinic. It moves drug addiction from the justice system to the public health system where it should be. How does it help the population to jail an addict over and over and over? The money is much better spent on treatment for those who want it.

Driving high will still be illegal. Are you worried about all the drunk drivers on the road? I never drive on the night of the Super Bowl or on NYE because I worry about that. But I don't want booze to be made illegal either.

People have never been unable to get pot or any other drugs. People who want to drive high are already doing so.

I was only surprised consevrvative states like Montana and South Dakota legalized. The country as a whole is finally seeing the War on Drugs was a hugely expensive, unjust failure. It's not just a vote to legalize drugs, it's a vote against a bogus war in which no one wins except those who profit from it.
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