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Old 12-09-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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In an effort to tighten the noose around every worker in the state, the government in Trenton is about to reclassify everyone possible as an employee rather than an independent contractor. Stifling the ability to start your own business by making it nearly impossible to get work.

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/B...99/5936_I1.HTM

https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/12/...l-worried.html

Another disgusting example state overreach.

Fortunately, at the moment, there is a carve out for real estate agents, who will remain as independent contractors. If we were not exempted, or if that changes in the final bill, most brokers would fire nearly all their agents. You would see at least 80% of the agents thrown out of the business.

Same for many other professions. Uber? Goodbye! There would be at least a 30% increase in prices if Uber drivers were classified as employees. Pricing them out of many markets. Many Uber drivers would be unemployed.

This is a pretty bad development. It is another nail in the coffin for freedom, self-direction, entrepreneurship, and business formation in this state. Plus it will drastically inflate the price of many services and create yet more red tape and bureaucratic abuse.

This needs to be opposed.
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by Marc Paolella View Post
In an effort to tighten the noose around every worker in the state, the government in Trenton is about to reclassify everyone possible as an employee rather than an independent contractor. Stifling the ability to start your own business by making it nearly impossible to get work.

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/B...99/5936_I1.HTM

https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/12/...l-worried.html

Another disgusting example state overreach.

Fortunately, at the moment, there is a carve out for real estate agents, who will remain as independent contractors. If we were not exempted, or if that changes in the final bill, most brokers would fire nearly all their agents. You would see at least 80% of the agents thrown out of the business.

Same for many other professions. Uber? Goodbye! There would be at least a 30% increase in prices if Uber drivers were classified as employees. Pricing them out of many markets. Many Uber drivers would be unemployed.

This is a pretty bad development. It is another nail in the coffin for freedom, self-direction, entrepreneurship, and business formation in this state. Plus it will drastically inflate the price of many services and create yet more red tape and bureaucratic abuse.

This needs to be opposed.
Opposed? this is NJ. there are no voters who find this to be a problem, well just enough to not find it a problem.


So says Murphy.....


"You should let me wet my beak a little... Tell your friends I don't want a lot. Just enough to wet my beak."
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:24 PM
 
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Yep, no plastic bags, no paper bags, no freelancing. And gun owners to be required to carry insurance, said insurance having been recently outlawed by executive order. And we'll keep re-electing these people.
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Old 12-10-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: NYC
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This is for companies of a certain size. I don't think it will pass because of the implications. The government themselves hire thousands of contractors and freelancers. I think this is the wrong kind of legislation without a proper study.

I don't think Uber drivers really want to be employees. They lose all the benefits of being a contractor. Once you are classified as an employee, you are only given a fixed wage and then benefits.

So you rather give Uber access to your car and for them to make you drive for 35 hrs on a fixed rate?

Say they pay each Uber driver $20/hr and make them drive 35 hrs a week. That's only $700/week and $2800/month minus the cost of your own gas and car payments. You are making less than $2000 a month even if they give you free health insurance. That's only a $25k annual salary.

You better off working as an independent and can drive when you feel like it and get paid market rate when the fares are high. A salary guarantees that your income is fixed even when fares are high. Uber may actually make more money off drivers being paid a fixed salary.

The biggest problem today is once again the cost of health insurance is simply too high. The failure of the ACA to offer people affordable access for the working poor.
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The failure of the ACA to offer people affordable access for the working poor.



https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ows-that-going
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