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Old 09-07-2020, 11:35 AM
 
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This article--from Maine--illustrates how an area that had not been a COVID-19 hotspot was rapidly transformed into a center for the spread of that disease, simply because people at one event didn't wear masks and didn't practice social distancing:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/cor...245531825.html

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Old 09-07-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Greater NYC
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This article--from Maine--illustrates how an area that had not been a COVID-19 hotspot was rapidly transformed into a center for the spread of that disease, simply because people at one event didn't wear masks and didn't practice social distancing:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/cor...245531825.html

YES. We have close friends up there and Maine was doing so well for so long that many stopped social distancing and wearing masks a while ago. And now this.

That glitter analogy really sums it up.
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Old 09-07-2020, 12:24 PM
 
Location: close to home
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This article--from Maine--illustrates how an area that had not been a COVID-19 hotspot was rapidly transformed into a center for the spread of that disease, simply because people at one event didn't wear masks and didn't practice social distancing:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/cor...245531825.html

That is so depressing.
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Old 09-07-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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This article--from Maine--illustrates how an area that had not been a COVID-19 hotspot was rapidly transformed into a center for the spread of that disease, simply because people at one event didn't wear masks and didn't practice social distancing:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/cor...245531825.html

147 infections and 3 deaths in a town of 12,500 people not practicing any social distancing is actually not that bad.
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Old 09-07-2020, 03:11 PM
 
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147 infections and 3 deaths in a town of 12,500 people not practicing any social distancing is actually not that bad.
Tell that to the relatives of the 3 people who died--who were not present at that event, and who were infected by the maskless people who did attend the event.
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Old 09-07-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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147 infections and 3 deaths in a town of 12,500 people not practicing any social distancing is actually not that bad.
Just a month out from the event. The final numbers are not in.
I would not categorize it as "not that bad".
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Old 09-07-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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Living in a rural area doesn't always serve to protect one from a pandemic:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c11zMHUJSDNX80

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Old 09-07-2020, 03:28 PM
 
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Isn't this why we elected a governor. The state Constitution gives him the legal power to make these decisions, he smartly listens to the medical experts, communicates to the public through the press, provides detailed statistical information on websites, he advocated for federal resources, provides testing to his citizens.
Seems like he is doing the job that we pay him to do.
If you think he makes bad decisions, work to elect someone else or move to state, even temporarily, that you think is more in line with your way of living.
Murphy is generally transparent. He is not stupid. He is not personally financially benefiting from the lock down. He does not pretend that the rules don't apply to him. I like that he answers all questions and give his reasoning. I also like his public health team.
I am confused on why you think this is tyranny.
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Old 09-07-2020, 03:45 PM
 
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I am confused on why you think this is tyranny.
The easy answer to that question is that the people who think he is a tyrant would probably be unable to pass an 8th grade Civics exam. NJ convened a Constitutional Convention in 1947, which resulted in a newly-revised Constitution for NJ, and that document granted the NJ Governor stronger executive powers than in any other state.

Tom Kean was NJ's Governor in the '80s, and when he attended national governors' meetings, he was almost always greeted--in a jocular manner--as Ayatollah Kean. The other 49 governors were in awe of the exceptionally strong executive power granted to NJ governors by the 1947 NJ Constitution, and they kidded him about being able to wield the power that was at his discretion.

If people don't like the reality of NJ's 1947 Constitution, then they should begin petitions for yet another NJ Constitutional Convention, and then press the convention delegates for a reduction in the executive powers of NJ's Governor. Unless our state constitution is revised once again, the fact of the matter is that the document under which we currently operate grants stronger executive powers to the person who occupies the NJ Governor's Office than any other state grants to its Chief Executive.

Class is dismissed for today.

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Old 09-07-2020, 04:03 PM
 
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The easy answer to that question is that the people who think he is a tyrant would probably be unable to pass an 8th grade Civics exam. NJ convened a Constitutional Convention in 1947, which resulted in a newly-revised Constitution for NJ, and that document granted the NJ Governor stronger executive powers than in any other state.

Tom Kean was NJ's Governor in the '80s, and when he attended national governors' meetings, he was almost always greeted--in a jocular manner--as Ayatollah Kean. The other 49 governors were in awe of the exceptionally strong executive power granted to NJ governors by the 1947 NJ Constitution, and they kidded him about being able to wield the power that was at his discretion.

If people don't like the reality of NJ's 1947 Constitution, then they should begin petitions for yet another NJ Constitutional Convention and then press the convention delegates for a reduction in the executive powers of NJ's Governor. Unless our state constitution is revised once again, the fact of the matter is that the document under which we currently operate grants stronger executive powers to the person who occupies the NJ Governor's Office than any other state grants to its Chief Executive.

Class is dismissed for today.
Not commenting on his decisions but I have been impressed with his commitment to accurate data reporting. It is refreshingly detailed. This is not so easy to do. You can tell that the guy ran a numbers driven organization and was responsible to shareholders.
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