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Old 09-08-2020, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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Ah yeahhh you did

Specifically

"And yet Florida ranks 17th right now in deaths per capita. Do you need a reminder on where NJ sits?"
They have had fewer deaths per capita from Covid. That is a simple fact that in no way, shape, or form translates into ‘I think Florida is a better state’. It also doesn’t mean Murphy is better than DeSantis. You’re funny.
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Old 09-08-2020, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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They have had fewer deaths per capita from Covid. That is a simple fact that in no way, shape, or form translates into ‘I think Florida is a better state’. It also doesn’t mean Murphy is better than DeSantis. You’re funny.
Their numbers don't look good.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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Old 09-08-2020, 06:04 PM
 
Location: NJ
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interesting how they have much fewer deaths with more cases (vs new york, i tend to look at new york not nj for work reasons). im curious how the death rate has changed due to treatment. then you have the other factor where the death rate will go down as it spreads among schoolchildren.
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Old 09-08-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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interesting how they have much fewer deaths with more cases (vs new york, i tend to look at new york not nj for work reasons). im curious how the death rate has changed due to treatment. then you have the other factor where the death rate will go down as it spreads among schoolchildren.
I do think they’ll see a slightly larger bump the second time around. NJ’s bump will likely be much smaller because our most susceptible died already. The path for this virus has little to do with who is in charge. It’s about who got hit first, how much we knew at the time the first wave struck, and overall age of the population, with a tiny bit of new treatment methods throw in.

The only validity in criticizing leaders is in how well they can structure their reopening to try and salvage their economy, kids’ education, etc. On that front, I’m not sure Murphy is doing too well.
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Old 09-09-2020, 06:11 AM
 
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Their numbers don't look good.
No, they certainly don't. While conditions in Florida have definitely improved over the past few weeks, the statistics show that currently, they are still not doing enough testing, and that the state's commitment to contact tracing is... dangerously insufficient.

Compare and contrast the stats on testing and contact tracing in FL & NJ:

https://covidactnow.org/us/fl?s=1011214

https://covidactnow.org/us/nj?s=1011214

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Old 09-09-2020, 08:20 AM
 
Location: NJ
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contact tracing is nothing but a welfare jobs program.
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Old 09-09-2020, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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contact tracing is nothing but a welfare jobs program.
Couldn't rep you again.

I don't know why anyone thinks testing is a solution for handling this virus, either. Unless you're testing everyone, every day, it's meaningless. Humans don't get to control nature. I know lots of people who are grasping at straws, they are so scared of this. Wash your hands, get exercise, eat well... those things are going to do FAR more for you than whether NJ or Florida does testing.
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Old 09-09-2020, 10:28 AM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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contact tracing is nothing but a welfare jobs program.
Nailed it, the basement dwellers think it's going to save them.
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Old 09-09-2020, 10:49 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news...ontact-tracing
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Old 09-09-2020, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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While I understand what they’re saying and how contact tracing works, we’re still only delaying the movement, not eradicating the virus. I agree that has benefits, but it’s coming at an increasing cost to our economic, social emotional and academic health. We can’t quarantine everyone each time they have contact with someone else who has the virus.

It’s particularly unnecessary when the individuals are not likely to become very ill themselves. Keep the elderly and immunocompromised away from places like university campuses, but the rest of us have to be allowed to start living again. I need my job back. My kids need to be in school. Businesses need to be allowed to flourish again.
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