North Jersey near the city is a Terrible place to live... (Union: middle-class, good schools)

[jobaba]

Originally Posted by ocnjgirl

I think you're mistaken about that. There is diversity in south Jersey, beaches (seems odd to.mention central beaches but not south, when we have Atlantic City, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May) and historic towns, and specialty markets, you just have to drive a but farther. Kosher food in Cherry Hill, Margate and others, Italian and Spanish in Hammonton (blueberry cannolis in summer at one Italian bakery thats bern in Hammonton for many decades) and farm fresh produce everywhere. P!us historic places like White House Subs in AC.

That's just what I was thinking of.

South NJ has the best beaches of course.

Northern NJ has tons of boony, more conservative places too, so it's kind of a misnomer.

Really, there's a swath between NYC and Philly, and then it kind of varies as you fan out...

It's really what you prefer...

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

we have no say in it and the difference between the parties isnt as much as people think.

I remember at the time of the 2016 election, maybe on the World forum, some Dutch guy said, "Some of you Americans are whining about your left-wing party. You don't HAVE a left-wing party. You have a right-wing party and a far-right-wing party."

It still makes me laugh. It's true in the eyes of the rest of the world.

I think if the last four years have taught us anything, it is how irrelevant the office of POTUS really is.

[EANJ]

Some people like chocolate ice cream, some people like vanilla ice cream, and some people don't like ice cream. When someone criticizes someone who likes chocolate, and says no, you are wrong, there's nothing good about chocolate ice cream, chocolate ice cream sucks, and so on -- that's just foolish. That's not a discussion or difference of opinion. Not at all. It speaks volumes about the person saying those things -- not about the person who likes chocolate ice cream.

[DannyHobkins]

Originally Posted by ocnjgirl

I think you're mistaken about that. There is diversity in south Jersey, beaches (seems odd to.mention central beaches but not south, when we have Atlantic City, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May) and historic towns, and specialty markets, you just have to drive a but farther. Kosher food in Cherry Hill, Margate and others, Italian and Spanish in Hammonton (blueberry cannolis in summer at one Italian bakery thats bern in Hammonton for many decades) and farm fresh produce everywhere. P!us historic places like White House Subs in AC.

Funny on peoples perspective, when I grew up in South Jersey I never considered South Jersey the shore. The shore was the shore, and South Jersey is the suburbs of Philadelphia to the Pinelands. Now people from North Jersey consider anything south, south jersey and many have no idea of the existence of the suburbs of Philadelphia.

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by ocnjgirl

I think you're mistaken about that. There is diversity in south Jersey, beaches (seems odd to.mention central beaches but not south, when we have Atlantic City, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May) and historic towns, and specialty markets, you just have to drive a but farther. Kosher food in Cherry Hill, Margate and others, Italian and Spanish in Hammonton (blueberry cannolis in summer at one Italian bakery thats bern in Hammonton for many decades) and farm fresh produce everywhere. P!us historic places like White House Subs in AC.

Wait wait wait, you never told ME about blueberry cannolis in summer. Why was I not informed?

[ocnjgirl]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

Wait wait wait, you never told ME about blueberry cannolis in summer. Why was I not informed?

Oooops!! It's called Cacia's Bakery: https://www.caciabakery.com

They were really good!

[eljavi84]

Originally Posted by ericp501

Unless you're a millionaire living in one of those suuuper expensive towns and money just isn't an issue, north jersey is a horrible place to live.

I've lived in South Jersey in Burlington County, the middle of the state on the Bay in South Amboy, and in north jersey in Hoboken, Weehawken, worked in Carlstadt went to school in Hackensack..

Having experienced the whole state, I'm telling you North Jersey is just a horrid place to live. There's always traffic. Stores and parking no matter where you go are so crowded and frustrating. Seriously your costco on a tuesday afternoon is like our costco in south jersey on black Friday.

Everything is on top of each other, it's sooo overpriced.

You need to break free... the Bay area in South Amboy was okay, but south jersey is miles away better all around.

That is all, rant over...

Thanks for your rant, but if someone has been affected by COVID-19 and all they can afford is North Jersey due to the current NYC exodus yet still be close, then it is not a horrible place to live. And you don't need to live in a rich area, there are plenty of middle-class towns that are affordable with good schools. You can't compare living in Hudson county (similar to living in NYC) where everyone is on top of each other vs. Union county where you get a little more for your money and have some separation....

[Busch Boy]

Originally Posted by eljavi84

Thanks for your rant, but if someone has been affected by COVID-19 and all they can afford is North Jersey due to the current NYC exodus yet still be close, then it is not a horrible place to live. And you don't need to live in a rich area, there are plenty of middle-class towns that are affordable with good schools. You can't compare living in Hudson county (similar to living in NYC) where everyone is on top of each other vs. Union county where you get a little more for your money and have some separation....

Where are all these “affordable” middle-class towns with good schools in North Jersey?

[vision33r]

South NJ has a similar effect like the Hamptons. Decades ago nobody cares about the Hamptons until the movie stars started flocking there due to how secluded it was. Now people are flocking to South NJ because of the beaches, it's more accessible than the Hamptons. So it's possible in another decade South NJ by the shores will become Hamptons like. Just look at many water front properties right now, they quadrupled faster than NNJ properties. Some $200k properties last 5 years are now worth well over $700k

[HudsonCoNJ]

Originally Posted by Busch Boy

Where are all these “affordable” middle-class towns with good schools in North Jersey?

I’d like to know as well