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Old 01-29-2021, 03:37 PM
 
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Nope.

Alberta oil sand production costs are $75-$85/barrel just to pull it out of the ground. As long as the barrel price of oil stays where it is, Alberta sand oil will sell at a loss if anybody wants it.

WTI Crude is 52.22/bar today
Brent Crude is 55.92/bar today
Opec Crude is 54.36/bar today
https://oilprice.com/

Who pays $85/barrel? The answer is nobody.

Canada oil sands production has a huge problem going forward as it continues to operate at a loss. The world is awash in oil and usage is down.
Now see here, sir! This forum exists for the recitation of right-wing rants, which are based on "feelings" rather than on facts.
We will have none of this posting of easily-verifiable factual information!

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Old 01-29-2021, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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Gas prices will continue to spike from Biden ending the Pipeline. This is a fact, not feeling.
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Old 01-29-2021, 06:23 PM
 
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Gas prices will continue to spike from Biden ending the Pipeline. This is a fact, not feeling.


No, by definition, a fact" is something that has already occurred and/or has already been proven to be correct. Something that has not yet taken place cannot possibly be a "fact".

In 1955 Nicholas Ray gave us the film Rebel Without a Cause.
In this thread and others--thanks to you--we now have Rebel (1978) Without a Clue.

Because of your totally tenuous grasp on reality, coupled with your predictably partisan posts, you have earned a place on my "ignore" list. As the flight attendants say while you depart from the plane... Buh bye!


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Old 01-29-2021, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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Retriever, it will happen because it forces us to rely on foreign oil. Already caused gas prices to start rising. Just common sense. You'll see
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Old 01-30-2021, 07:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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No, by definition, a fact" is something that has already occurred and/or has already been proven to be correct. Something that has not yet taken place cannot possibly be a "fact".

In 1955 Nicholas Ray gave us the film Rebel Without a Cause.
In this thread and others--thanks to you--we now have Rebel (1978) Without a Clue.

Because of your totally tenuous grasp on reality, coupled with your predictably partisan posts, you have earned a place on my "ignore" list. As the flight attendants say while you depart from the plane... Buh bye!

accumulating facts based on precedent provide a prediction based on a high level of statistical significance.

Can anyone speculate why the majority of the country thought it was wonderful idea to raise the gas tax, which is one of those back door taxes on the people who were promised their taxes would not be raised by the front door????

Really, who among us wants to pay more for gasoline, we have the state ala carte gas tax, raise at will, when tax fails to meet minimum expected amount... and no need to bother asking the taxpayers, just reach into their pockets, no permission required. then we have the south bend transportation guru suggesting a higher federal tax along with a mileage tax.

Really, who would burden their fellow residents with such a heavy load.
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Old 01-30-2021, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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accumulating facts based on precedent provide a prediction based on a high level of statistical significance.

Can anyone speculate why the majority of the country thought it was wonderful idea to raise the gas tax, which is one of those back door taxes on the people who were promised their taxes would not be raised by the front door????

Really, who among us wants to pay more for gasoline, we have the state ala carte gas tax, raise at will, when tax fails to meet minimum expected amount... and no need to bother asking the taxpayers, just reach into their pockets, no permission required. then we have the south bend transportation guru suggesting a higher federal tax along with a mileage tax.

Really, who would burden their fellow residents with such a heavy load.
I agree Kracer. It is not rocket science to learn from the past and therefore make a prediction based on those facts. That is using simple common sense. Every liberal who voted for Biden should have done their research and watched the debates. They should have known he wanted to eliminate Keystone, and be smart enough to know that would cause massive job loss, significantly higher gas prices, which leads to everything else skyrocketing in price, which of course leads to economic hardship (as if the pandemic wasn't enough). (Smack Smack Common Sense)
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Old 02-06-2021, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Gas prices will continue to spike from Biden ending the Pipeline. This is a fact, not feeling.
For the first time in a long time, gas prices are over $2.00 everywhere in Stillwater, OK. The cheapest as of Friday evening was at Murphy's by the N. Perkins Rd. Wal-Mart at $2.06 with a holy mackerel sunset as pictured.

Interesting on late Friday morning how higher oil and gas prices prices coincided with one of the strongest earthquakes in Oklahoma in quite some time with a magnitude of 4.2 west of Perry. Five disposal wells near the epicenter were ordered shut down and 10 others restricted

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Old 02-06-2021, 10:12 AM
 
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Retriever, it will happen because it forces us to rely on foreign oil. Already caused gas prices to start rising. Just common sense. You'll see

The amount of oil converted to gasoline and sold in the US was going to be minimal. That is not going to be a driver of any increase. Especially when we are told that the oil is going to be shipped by rail or truck.

So if you make the case that closing the pipeline will drive prices do not make the claim that the environmental impact will be worse because it will come by rail or truck.

And I could care less if the pipeline was built or not. I am sure there are equal arguments on both sides
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:15 PM
 
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The amount of oil converted to gasoline and sold in the US was going to be minimal. That is not going to be a driver of any increase. Especially when we are told that the oil is going to be shipped by rail or truck.

So if you make the case that closing the pipeline will drive prices do not make the claim that the environmental impact will be worse because it will come by rail or truck.

And I could care less if the pipeline was built or not. I am sure there are equal arguments on both sides
They should have let that supply of gas come into the United States. Pure idiocy.

$2.39 a gallon here at the Costo that's where it is the lowest.
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Old 02-10-2021, 12:14 PM
 
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In Florida, we went from a low of 1.99 per gallon before the election and are now sitting at 2.49 per gallon. A pretty big and fast jump.
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