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I have a friend who sometimes mentions a friend of hers that's an ATF agent. The very name of that agency infuriates me. She is aware of my feelings but I try to pretend that I'm sure her friend is a good person when deep down I know she is the devil
Once again an interesting thread -- about NJ's own Bruce Springsteen -- which can be viewed from many different perspectives, is used as a forum for hatred, venom, and the spewing of socio/poli/cultural/vocational/other rhetoric. Wonders -- and the norm -- never ceases.
I for one am interested in how these charges play out. The legal side of it is interesting.
I have a friend (actually the on again/off again married bf of a friend) who is a cop, and he told me a few years ago, probably when I was your age (62 now) "Women your age are invisible to us. You can drive down the road with a beer in one hand and a joint in the other, and we won't even see you."
I haven't tested the complete theory, but when I see a cop, I look right at them, and he's right. Their eyes glaze right over, and I'm not there. And that works just fine for me. Invisibility can be a superpower.
I’ve said that for a long time! I call it the Cloak of Invisibility. It has the same effect when sneaking food into the movies. I could walk past those kids with a cooler and they wouldn’t notice!
My HELL experience with police was in East Orange. Very, very similar to the one you had.
Rude
Nasty
Unprofessional
And.. I mean, let's just say it, I was profiled (racially) for being the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood.
I am "white," guess what "color" the police were.
I'm sorry, they didn't have to treat me how they did.
Now, that was a royal mess.. I actually was robbed, my face was a bloody mess, and I did not have my keys, wallet, GLASSES, phone, ran down street to call and shop STILL didn't want to call, I feared for my life.. the way I was treated was disgusting... very similar to you.
I WANT to believe that not all police are bad but in my town.. we have at least ONE total J.A. *and he is training another young officer, Hatt... and the Sergeant is one of those that would rather put YOU on the defensive, and be as UNHELPFUL as possible. Blue Wall.
They generally leave everyone alone now but I stare no my rear view as I pass. Because I'm ready to floor it. Lets see that no-chase policy, since they can't be bothered anyway.
What they say? Show me..
Before that night, I honestly thought they were all good guys. After that I wonder how many are in jail because they were so sure they were right they went around the law to arrest them. It changed my view of them permanently.
I’ve said that for a long time! I call it the Cloak of Invisibility. It has the same effect when sneaking food into the movies. I could walk past those kids with a cooler and they wouldn’t notice!
Hahaha! I had a coworker who told me that he had been buying a senior discount ticket at the kiosk at the movie theater since he was 50. He said, "Those kids don't know the difference between 50 and 65. They see my grey, balding head when I hand them the ticket and don't question."
Pre-Internet, I saw a show on TV about a 50-something woman who worked for a private investigation firm that specialized in catching cheating spouses as evidence for divorce settlements. She would take her video camera and go to public places where the cheaters were with their non-marital partners and take videos of them. She said, "Nobody notices a grandmotherly looking woman with a video camera."
I say work it.
I was so excited when I turned 62 on August 1st and couldn't wait to go to the beach booth at Long Branch and show my license to prove I didn't have to pay anymore.
I just walked up to the window and said, "senior". The fetus in the booth looked up from her phone and mumbled and then looked back down and I realized I probably could have been doing this for a couple of years.
ok but we dont have to pretend that it is a greater violation on federal property vs state, local, private. federl is the least deserving of additional protection among those groups.
I once had my jacket, purse and trunk searched on the side of 676 when I was about 20 (38 years ago, before this decision or they'd have searched my whole car) when I got pulled over for speeding coming out of Camden. I worked there, as an operator at Lifecall, the "I've fallen and I can't get up" people. I worked 4 till midnight. They didn't believe me. They believed white girls coming out of Camden at midnight are buying drugs, and they treated me like a criminal from the beginning. They walked up to my car, one on each side, shone their flashlights in my face and said "What did you just put down your seat? Get out of the car" Then because they didn't find anything, they gave me a ticket that said I was going 85 when I was probably going 60. When I said I wasn't going 85 they said "So go to court". I felt very lucky they didn't plant a vial on me, because they were so sure I had drugs. I never looked at cops the same way after that.
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Anyone who thinks that racial/ethnic prejudice doesn't exist, or that it exists only in relation to one or two races or ethnic groups, is simply not living in reality. About 15 years ago, a friend of mine hit a deer shortly after leaving my house, and went into a ditch, wrecking his car. He immediately phoned me, I got there w/in a couple of minutes, and I directed traffic around his wrecked car with my flashlight.
A few minutes later, a NJ State Trooper rolled-up, checked on the welfare of my friend, and set up perimeter road flares. This officer was one of the relatively small number of Black State Troopers in NJ, and he was the model of both professionalism and courtesy.
Then--unfortunately--one of the local cops rolled-up and the State Trooper departed. As soon as the local goon cop saw that my friend was Asian, his attitude did a quick 180, and instead of expressing concern for the driver's welfare, and instead of trying to determine the actual facts of the collision, he began accusing my friend of reckless driving. I intervened, questioned his reasoning, and was able to talk him out of issuing a ticket. If not for the fact that I am White, he probably would have arrested me for "interfering", or some other trumped-up bogus charge.
There is no question in my mind that the local cop was a blatant bigot.
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Then because they didn't find anything, they gave me a ticket that said I was going 85 when I was probably going 60. When I said I wasn't going 85 they said "So go to court". I felt very lucky they didn't plant a vial on me, because they were so sure I had drugs. I never looked at cops the same way after that.
