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Old 07-18-2021, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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My crystal ball says no significant new restrictions until November 3.
You may be right. Murphy could possibly ruin any chance of re-election if he tried any BS restrictions before Election Day. But IF he wins, prepare for many of our freedoms taken away and many jobs lost/businesses closed permanently. Mark my words. A vote for Murphy is a vote for communism.

 
Old 07-18-2021, 08:26 PM
 
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You may be right. Murphy could possibly ruin any chance of re-election if he tried any BS restrictions before Election Day. But IF he wins, prepare for many of our freedoms taken away and many jobs lost/businesses closed permanently. Mark my words. A vote for Murphy is a vote for communism.
I'm leaving.

I've done it before,... will again.

The problem is when it becomes Federal with the BS...
 
Old 07-19-2021, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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You may be right. Murphy could possibly ruin any chance of re-election if he tried any BS restrictions before Election Day. But IF he wins, prepare for many of our freedoms taken away and many jobs lost/businesses closed permanently. Mark my words. A vote for Murphy is a vote for communism.
I think it's weird when people say things like this. Seriously? It sounds like something out of the 1950s where people saw communism around every corner.
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Old 07-19-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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I think it's weird when people say things like this. Seriously? It sounds like something out of the 1950s where people saw communism around every corner.
Yup!
And yet, those same people would call foul if someone mentioned their favorite ex-POTUS in conjunction with a fascist reference.
 
Old 07-19-2021, 08:11 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Trump faced the most solid test of his "fascism" that any president since Abraham Lincoln has faced (the summer of non-stop riots), and he largely stayed out of it. What does that say about this flippant label I hear thrown around so much?

Again proving my earlier point that we see what we want to see. Half the country calls Obama a communist, half Trump a fascist. Neither label remotely true.

Very few people will ever speak negatively about Lincoln or FDR, but they are the only presidents I can recall off hand who actually used the power of the federal government to incarcerate American citizens for political crimes. Actually in FDR's case, it was based solely on race. Imagine, the hero of the left who brought effective socialist programs to US soil...
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Old 07-19-2021, 09:00 AM
 
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Trump faced the most solid test of his "fascism" that any president since Abraham Lincoln has faced (the summer of non-stop riots), and he largely stayed out of it. What does that say about this flippant label I hear thrown around so much?

Again proving my earlier point that we see what we want to see. Half the country calls Obama a communist, half Trump a fascist. Neither label remotely true.

Very few people will ever speak negatively about Lincoln or FDR, but they are the only presidents I can recall off hand who actually used the power of the federal government to incarcerate American citizens for political crimes. Actually in FDR's case, it was based solely on race. Imagine, the hero of the left who brought effective socialist programs to US soil...
Yup, any of those types of extreme labels are a clear signal that a poster is either willfully pretending to be stupid or trolling. Or both. At any rate, it's also a clear signal that they are not interested in actual conversation.

I still get a chuckle out of the Dutch poster who, back in 2016, said, "I don't get what Americans are talking about when they are complaining about a left-wing party. You don't HAVE a left-wing party. You have a right-wing party and a far-right-wing party."

Seriously, though, I believe the USA would be far better off if we were broken into further into more parties like Canada or the Netherlands, which would more accurately reflect what actual Americans think. We don't all go into the R or D box, but those are the choices we get, except for a few smaller parties that never have a chance to compete.
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Old 07-19-2021, 09:13 AM
 
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Yup, any of those types of extreme labels are a clear signal that a poster is either willfully pretending to be stupid or trolling.
In some cases, I don't think that they are pretending.
 
Old 07-19-2021, 09:40 AM
 
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New York might lock down again, but not a single "Red state" will.

Glenn Beck program once again destroying the Maskers.

I also will not fly anymore.
 
Old 07-19-2021, 09:41 AM
 
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[/b]Yup, any of those types of extreme labels are a clear signal that a poster is either willfully pretending to be stupid or trolling. [/b] Or both. At any rate, it's also a clear signal that they are not interested in actual conversation.

I still get a chuckle out of the Dutch poster who, back in 2016, said, "I don't get what Americans are talking about when they are complaining about a left-wing party. You don't HAVE a left-wing party. You have a right-wing party and a far-right-wing party."

Seriously, though, I believe the USA would be far better off if we were broken into further into more parties like Canada or the Netherlands, which would more accurately reflect what actual Americans think. We don't all go into the R or D box, but those are the choices we get, except for a few smaller parties that never have a chance to compete.
Or.. in certain limited instances, like me, you've reached your lifelong limit of b******* at age 39 and will no longer take it. Particularly from Democrats, but also anyone else. Just sayin'
 
Old 07-19-2021, 09:43 AM
 
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But let's all let the 5 or 6 "ringleader" posters control the narrative.

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