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Old 09-28-2022, 04:53 PM
 
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I advocate for more trails and green ways, however, I'd be very leery of walking that path near the mayhem centered NE NJ cities.
Ah, yes, the mayhem of Montclair, Glen Ridge, Bloomfield, and the Forest Hill section of Newark.
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Union City, NJ
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Ah, yes, the mayhem of Montclair, Glen Ridge, Bloomfield, and the Forest Hill section of Newark.
Yeah wtf is that poster talking about? People love to be so negative about this state, it's hilarious. There is so much to be frustrated with and could be made better, but public safety per capita is quite impressive vs. much of the country.
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Old 09-28-2022, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Yeah wtf is that poster talking about? People love to be so negative about this state, it's hilarious. There is so much to be frustrated with and could be made better, but public safety per capita is quite impressive vs. much of the country.

The thread title started with “Murphy”; do the responses here really surprise you?
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Old 09-29-2022, 06:14 AM
 
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Yeah wtf is that poster talking about? People love to be so negative about this state, it's hilarious.
And yet, he's still here in NJ, complaining about everything that has even a remote connection to urban areas. Everything in NJ is apparently awful, in his opinion, yet he remains...
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Old 09-29-2022, 06:41 AM
 
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The thread title started with “Murphy”; do the responses here really surprise you?
Nope! Not surprising, at all.

When someone is preoccupied with a certain topic, almost anything can evoke a response that is related to the object of his/her preoccupation, even if they aren't actually connected. An old joke illustrates this phenomenon:

A man goes to a psychiatrist. To start things off, the psychiatrist suggests that they begin with a Rorschach Inkblot Test.
The shrink holds up the first image and asks the man what he sees.
"A man and a woman having sex in a park," the man replies.
The psychiatrist holds up the second picture and asks the man what he sees.
"A man and a woman having sex in a boat."
He holds up the third picture, and the response is, "A man and a woman having sex on the beach."
This goes on for the rest of the set of images, and the man says he sees a man and a woman having sex in every one of the images.

At the end of the test, the psychiatrist looks over his notes and says, "It appears that you have a preoccupation with sex." The patient replies, "But Doc, you're the one with the dirty pictures!"
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Old 09-29-2022, 07:26 AM
 
Location: close to home
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Nope! Not surprising, at all.

When someone is preoccupied with a certain topic, almost anything can evoke a response that is related to the object of his/her preoccupation, even if they aren't actually connected. An old joke illustrates this phenomenon:

A man goes to a psychiatrist. To start things off, the psychiatrist suggests that they begin with a Rorschach Inkblot Test.
The shrink holds up the first image and asks the man what he sees.
"A man and a woman having sex in a park," the man replies.
The psychiatrist holds up the second picture and asks the man what he sees.
"A man and a woman having sex in a boat."
He holds up the third picture, and the response is, "A man and a woman having sex on the beach."
This goes on for the rest of the set of images, and the man says he sees a man and a woman having sex in every one of the images.

At the end of the test, the psychiatrist looks over his notes and says, "It appears that you have a preoccupation with sex." The patient replies, "But Doc, you're the one with the dirty pictures!"
That's hilarious.
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Old 09-29-2022, 07:51 AM
 
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It follows an old track from Montclair, through parts of Belleville, Newark, and on to Jersey City. $90 million for 9 miles is a bargain compared to what we spend on a single highway interchange these days.

If they can tie it into the Bergen Arches and 6th Street Embankment it'll bring it right into the heart of JC. Being able to bike to Montclair in 30 mins vs spending an hour or more on multiple trains or buses will be great!!
Yes its overpriced! NJ has the most expensive interstates in the country at $2M per mile, where the national average is about $300k. That cost includes land, building bridges, engineers for jug handles etc. We are talking about a sidewalk walking path here at $10M per mile that requires paving over an established railroad track for over a hundred years. Theres no eminent domain costs, its a pretty simple and straightforward project.

Something is very fishy with this.

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Old 09-29-2022, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Yes its overpriced! NJ has the most expensive interstates in the country at $2M per mile, where the national average is about $300k. That cost includes land, building bridges, engineers for jug handles etc. We are talking about a sidewalk walking path here at $10M per mile that requires paving over an established railroad track for over a hundred years. Theres no eminent domain costs, its a pretty simple and straightforward project.

Something is very fishy with this.

It’s 100 feet wide and 935 acres of green space, according to their website. I’m not justifying the cost because I have no idea what it should be, but it’s not just a sidewalk.
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Old 09-29-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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It’s 100 feet wide and 935 acres of green space, according to their website. I’m not justifying the cost because I have no idea what it should be, but it’s not just a sidewalk.
It is what the eff it is.

Murphy and state of NJ had to act otherwise would miss out on opportunity to get that bit of land. Clock was ticking on right of first refusal, and "greens" among others backing this project were quite worried RR that owned property would run down the clock, then sell property off in whole or parts to others for more money.

Rudy G. gave the OK for Highline ROW to be torn down; Bloomberg came in and stopped that; and rest is history.
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Old 09-29-2022, 11:19 AM
 
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It’s 100 feet wide and 935 acres of green space, according to their website. I’m not justifying the cost because I have no idea what it should be, but it’s not just a sidewalk.
Its 135 acres of land, which comes out to $666,666.66 per acre (interesting number). That is a very absurd price for land, which is 3 or 4x the average price in the state and much of it isn't desirable land. It's through swamps, industrial parks, interstates, or without road access.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2022/09/es...mile-park.html

Something isn't settling right about it.
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