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Old 12-05-2022, 09:14 AM
 
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When I was in Amsterdam, it looked just like that. That's how people go to work.
When I was working in Amsterdam (even the outside cities) they have their own roads, bridges, underpasses, with streetlights for bikes and all.
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Old 12-06-2022, 09:40 AM
 
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When I was in Amsterdam, it looked just like that. That's how people go to work.
I guess the commute looks like that, but people use the bicycles for all sorts of things, and people riding around with bicycles utterly overloaded with stuff (my favorite was an upright Dyson vacuum cleaner, in the box, on a guy's handlebars) or with kids in one arm or on the luggage rack (not a rack meant for a kid, though those exist too) were not at all uncommon.
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Old 12-06-2022, 10:09 AM
 
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Except this bill was sponsored by two black Assemblymen and one white (Hispanic?) assemblywoman. Racism is fun though - congratulations.

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4894
I guess you didn’t what he wrote because the only thing you can see is race.

What he said individual, not bureaucrats should decide what is best for him/herself.

I wear helmet when I go ride my bike. I require my kids to wear them too. I don’t force my wife who doesn’t want to wear one to wear one. It is her choice.
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Old 12-06-2022, 10:28 AM
 
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I guess you didn’t what he wrote because the only thing you can see is race.

What he said individual, not bureaucrats should decide what is best for him/herself.

I wear helmet when I go ride my bike. I require my kids to wear them too. I don’t force my wife who doesn’t want to wear one to wear one. It is her choice.
Are the assemblymen also trying to target the grown adults who ride BMX bikes in the bad neighborhoods? If you know, you know.
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Old 12-06-2022, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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The Dutch aren't wearing helmets because their streets are designed and built to be safe for cycling. In 99.9% of the U.S. that is not at all the case. We stripe a 3' "lane" on a 55mph highway and say "good luck, cyclist. don't die"

I don't own a car, so a bike is an important part of getting around town, running errands, etc. At times it's scary. Unfortunately "traffic engineers" don't seem to understand. Their noses are stuck in guidebooks that emphasize optimizing vehicle speed, throughput, and "level of service." In 2022, engineers in Hudson County think angled parking on Blvd East is a smart idea, or that widening the NJ Turnpike 78 Extension (funnel to the tunnel) is worth spending $10billion on. It's kind of hard to believe that profession hasn't wised up in the past 50 years.
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:14 PM
 
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The Dutch aren't wearing helmets because their streets are designed and built to be safe for cycling. In 99.9% of the U.S. that is not at all the case. We stripe a 3' "lane" on a 55mph highway and say "good luck, cyclist. don't die"

I don't own a car, so a bike is an important part of getting around town, running errands, etc. At times it's scary. Unfortunately "traffic engineers" don't seem to understand. Their noses are stuck in guidebooks that emphasize optimizing vehicle speed, throughput, and "level of service." In 2022, engineers in Hudson County think angled parking on Blvd East is a smart idea, or that widening the NJ Turnpike 78 Extension (funnel to the tunnel) is worth spending $10billion on. It's kind of hard to believe that profession hasn't wised up in the past 50 years.
NJ was never designed to be bike friendly, and we get 50 days a year of good bike weather anyway. Bikes in the state are for recreation, not transportation.
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Old 12-06-2022, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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NJ was never designed to be bike friendly, and we get 50 days a year of good bike weather anyway. Bikes in the state are for recreation, not transportation.
Depends on where you are in the state. In Hudson County, people use bikes for transportation all year-round. I have the salt rust to prove it haha.
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Old 12-06-2022, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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The Dutch aren't wearing helmets because their streets are designed and built to be safe for cycling. In 99.9% of the U.S. that is not at all the case. We stripe a 3' "lane" on a 55mph highway and say "good luck, cyclist. don't die"

I don't own a car, so a bike is an important part of getting around town, running errands, etc. At times it's scary. Unfortunately "traffic engineers" don't seem to understand. Their noses are stuck in guidebooks that emphasize optimizing vehicle speed, throughput, and "level of service." In 2022, engineers in Hudson County think angled parking on Blvd East is a smart idea, or that widening the NJ Turnpike 78 Extension (funnel to the tunnel) is worth spending $10billion on. It's kind of hard to believe that profession hasn't wised up in the past 50 years.


Doesn’t angled parking save space?
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Old 12-06-2022, 08:43 PM
 
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Unfortunately "traffic engineers" don't seem to understand. Their noses are stuck in guidebooks that emphasize optimizing vehicle speed, throughput, and "level of service."
LOL I wish. Level of service is often "F", throughput is terrible, and speed is "stop and go" way too much of the time.

Anyway, I bike on a fair number of roads in Essex and Union counties. Biggest problem is the ridges, another thing Amsterdam lacks. Are you going to be pampered the way Amsterdam cyclists are? No. But neither are the drivers pampered. This is New Jersey, not Bicycletopia.
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Old 12-07-2022, 06:31 AM
 
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Then you have people like my brother who thinks it's funny to yell "Go Power Rangers!" from his truck when passing helmeted bikers dressed in those silly outfits.
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