10-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Location: High Bridge, NJ
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So I noticed the strong odor of fuel oil in the house just now and went downstairs to find a haze hanging in the basement. The oil company came out and the tech determined that its a chimney problem. Anyone have a good experience with a chimney company they'd recommend in my area?
10-07-2008, 05:17 AM
Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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Badfish740
So I noticed the strong odor of fuel oil in the house just now and went downstairs to find a haze hanging in the basement. The oil company came out and the tech determined that its a chimney problem. Anyone have a good experience with a chimney company they'd recommend in my area?
So far..Hearth and Home in Ledgewood seems to be giving my clients the best prices. Do not call the one on 57 in Mansfiled..call the one on rt. 46 in ledgewood!
10-07-2008, 10:04 AM
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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WF Ryan and Son Chimney. Family Buisness. Was formerly President of the National Chimney Sweep Guild. 973-398-3978. Bill and Jenn Ryan.
10-07-2008, 09:16 PM
Location: Chester, NJ (Morris County)
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WF Ryan and Son Chimney. Family Buisness. Was formerly President of the National Chimney Sweep Guild. 973-398-3978. Bill and Jenn Ryan.
I would also recommend William F.Ryan and Son Chimney company.
10-08-2008, 07:00 AM
Location: High Bridge, NJ
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Thanks for all the responses-luckily I didn't actually need them. As it turns out my roof fans aren't getting enough air flow through attic so they were pulling air from the house itself, causing a downdraft in the chimney. The short term solution is simply disabling the fans but long term I need to create more ventilation by way of soffit vents. For some reason when the PO had the vinyl siding installed they did solid soffits all around. Anyway, at least I have good people to refer to if I ever do need chimney service. At the very least I think I'll get it swept soon.
10-08-2008, 08:18 AM
Location: High Bridge
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Quote:
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Badfish740
Thanks for all the responses-luckily I didn't actually need them. As it turns out my roof fans aren't getting enough air flow through attic so they were pulling air from the house itself, causing a downdraft in the chimney. The short term solution is simply disabling the fans but long term I need to create more ventilation by way of soffit vents. For some reason when the PO had the vinyl siding installed they did solid soffits all around. Anyway, at least I have good people to refer to if I ever do need chimney service. At the very least I think I'll get it swept soon.
Did they clean the boiler? When the oil is burned, soot and residue builds up at the top of the boiler, impeding air flow, which minimizes the amount of smoke that can get out, which in turn, minimizes the amount of air that needs to get sucked in from inside the house. If your boiler is on and pumping away, the vent flap should be just about at a full open. The attic fans could just be adding to the problem instead of being the problem.
10-08-2008, 09:11 AM
Location: High Bridge, NJ
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Did they clean the boiler? When the oil is burned, soot and residue builds up at the top of the boiler, impeding air flow, which minimizes the amount of smoke that can get out, which in turn, minimizes the amount of air that needs to get sucked in from inside the house. If your boiler is on and pumping away, the vent flap should be just about at a full open. The attic fans could just be adding to the problem instead of being the problem.
I did schedule a service and cleaning, but the lion's share of the problem was the fans. I tested this using a simple method I got from the folks at
Hearth.com - Information on Gas Fireplaces, Wood Stoves, Gas Logs, Pellet Stoves, Fireplaces, Chimneys and Hearth Products Basically, I went around with a strip of toilet paper to each window in the house and cracked it 1". With the fans on the paper would be blown nearly parallel to the floor via the air being sucked into the house from outside. This was the case with every window and door as well as the chimney itself. When I disabled the fans and repeated the test the paper hung completely still at each opening. The fans were creating a huge pressure differential between the house and the outside air. With the fans off, I started the furnace and held the toilet paper near the now open vent flap-the updraft nearly sucked the paper into the chimney. For right now I've left the fans off as it's not going to be hot or overly humid anytime soon, but eventually I'll install soffit vents about every four feet around the perimeter of the house to see if that provides enough airflow.
10-08-2008, 09:37 AM
Location: High Bridge
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Are the fans temp controlled? MasterFlow temp-controlled fans from good ol HD might help make the problem more manageable in the mean time.
10-08-2008, 10:10 AM
Location: High Bridge, NJ
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Are the fans temp controlled? MasterFlow temp-controlled fans from good ol HD might help make the problem more manageable in the mean time.
Temperature and humidity as per my (and your
) home inspector's recommendation. Since the gable vents were woefully undersized and the soffits were completely unvented the attic was like a sauna in even moderately warm/humid weather. The PO had agreed to kill/remove the mold, encapsulate what was left, and put on a new roof with fans equipped with thermostats as well as humidistats. The attic is now cool and dry, but of course the fans themselves coupled with the lack of passive ventilation has created a new issue. In any event, the settings on the controls are easy to manipulate for temperature and humidity percentage setpoints, but I just disabled both of them via the cutoff switch that the electrician had wired in. I'm going to leave them off completely until I get the ventilation in the soffit worked out.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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) home inspector's recommendation. Since the gable vents were woefully undersized and the soffits were completely unvented the attic was like a sauna in even moderately warm/humid weather. The PO had agreed to kill/remove the mold, encapsulate what was left, and put on a new roof with fans equipped with thermostats as well as humidistats. The attic is now cool and dry, but of course the fans themselves coupled with the lack of passive ventilation has created a new issue. In any event, the settings on the controls are easy to manipulate for temperature and humidity percentage setpoints, but I just disabled both of them via the cutoff switch that the electrician had wired in. I'm going to leave them off completely until I get the ventilation in the soffit worked out.
