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Listen, Rocker started a baiting post with his Mercer County question, then he quickly turns into a PA Burbs/South Jersey debate. The PA board has the history, go pull it up. There will never be any common ground other than living in the Philly metro area, which in itself is the 4th largest in the country offering high quality of life on both sides of the river. I suggest leaving it at that.
If Rocker or anyone else wants to try to prove that PA burbs are in some way superior to NJ's then I think you need to do the proper analysis which is NOT spouting about median income or housing numbers when the two areas are so different. It is about property taxes, moxy, infrastructure, location, restaurants, shopping, commuting distances, highways, housing price per square foot, economic growth etc. Maybe you don't like the answers, but it what it is. I can do more in Moorestown than 3-5 Main Line towns combined. I have more access to whatever I want than any burb in PA and so does much of the rest of SJ. Don't kill the messenger. PA is fine for what it is. Some towns in PA are very nice. The attractive towns in PA and surrounded by some of the lowest income counties in the northeast. Real estate is location, location, location.
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[quote=MoorestownResident;5766910 PA's income is very low compared to NJ's, even with affordable housing in the calcs.[/QUOTE]
That's because outside of the bookend cities of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh it's nothing but blue collar jobs if that. Most of the industries in PA as a whole were things like coal and steel,and I think most people know what happened to those
Listen, Rocker started a baiting post with his Mercer County question, then he quickly turns into a PA Burbs/South Jersey debate. The PA board has the history, go pull it up. There will never be any common ground other than living in the Philly metro area, which in itself is the 4th largest in the country offering high quality of life on both sides of the river. I suggest leaving it at that.
If Rocker or anyone else wants to try to prove that PA burbs are in some way superior to NJ's then I think you need to do the proper analysis which is NOT spouting about median income or housing numbers when the two areas are so different. It is about property taxes, moxy, infrastructure, location, restaurants, shopping, commuting distances, highways, housing price per square foot, economic growth etc. Maybe you don't like the answers, but it what it is. I can do more in Moorestown than 3-5 Main Line towns combined. I have more access to whatever I want than any burb in PA and so does much of the rest of SJ. Don't kill the messenger. PA is fine for what it is. Some towns in PA are very nice. The attractive towns in PA and surrounded by some of the lowest income counties in the northeast. Real estate is location, location, location.
look, it's PAINFULLY obvious you and rainrock have some sort of history. i've read his OP over and over, and I'm sorry, I fail to see any baiting. what I do see is YOU and stuckpa on him like white on rice. again, i'm sure this has to do with whatever goes on on the philly board, but from this outsider's perspective, he asked a valid and interesting question and received valid answers in kind. please, leave whatever drama you guys have over there.
Correct, these guys are acting like the Emerald City exists in PA with a 50 mile moat around it. Go drive around PA, then go drive around NJ. That will be more than telling.
There is nothing in PA that should be included as part of the NYC metro. Mercer is claimed by both Philly and NYC but it is also claimed to be part of the Delaware Valley, so in terms of topography, it is clearly better defined under the greater Philly area.
Mercer has nothing in common with northern NJ or NYC, the culture is very much like South Jersey. And I've lived in both NYC/Philly metro areas so I know what I'm talking about. I suspect the entire county will never be properly designated under Philly because Philly is NYC's poor stepchild. People in Mercer think of themselves as being in central NJ but they really are in South Jersey. Counties to the northeast are in central NJ- Middlesex and Monmouth Counties. Ocean County is the same, think they are in central NJ when they are in South Jersey.
Lol @ poor stepchild
Geographically route 195 is the 'unofficial' dividing line between north and south Jersey...kind of like their own mason-dixon line
That puts Trenton technically still in north Jersey...although the way it looks PA can have it
When I worked at a Trenton radio station,they considered themselves 'Trenton/Philadelphia'. It's closer to Philly anyway.
So again let em have Trenton & Camden as part of their package if they want
By the time counties like Bucks and Burlington send enough workers north to be on the brink of flipping, I think you'd see a combined metro area including New York and Philadelphia evolve. What a scary beast that would be.
That's what I said when I started to see the influx on NYers to Philly recently...the worst of both worlds
That's because outside of the bookend cities of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh it's nothing but blue collar jobs if that. Most of the industries in PA as a whole were things like coal and steel,and I think most people know what happened to those
This is absolutely true. No one would deny this. There are pockets of really nice areas (such as Hershey and some suburbs of Harrisburg and Lancaster, and there's renewal going on in the Lehigh Valley thanks to the outflow from NY/NJ), but there's serious economic woes in huge swaths of PA. This is sad, actually.
That's what I said when I started to see the influx on NYers to Philly recently...the worst of both worlds
Ahh, so you're anti-NY now, too. I see a pattern developing.
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