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Old 07-19-2011, 08:15 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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None of these towns were anywhere close to the level that East Orange and Orange are. New Brunswick was the worst probably. Yonkers btw is huge and is not anything that should be considered as a comparison. I hope they become nice but I just cannot see it happening. While there is only so much land in NJ, with capitalism there will always be economic classes and there will always be parts of New Jersey and everywhere that are poorer communities. I hope im wrong, a nice, safe, walkable thriving East Orange and Orange would be great for West and South Orange and that entire area but realistically it is not happening.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Anyone who thinks Orange and East Orange are "cleaning up" need to get their eyes examined. One night around midnight I was driving home and 280 was backed up for some reason, so I got off the Clinton St. exit in East Orange. I drove past the Brick Church station and then went down MLK which turns into Main St. in Orange. Every business was locked down with steel gates. The streets were completely deserted except for some homeless guys wandering around the sidewalks. I felt like I was driving through a post-war zone. I wouldn't have walked those streets if you paid me.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Anyone who thinks Orange and East Orange are "cleaning up" need to get their eyes examined. One night around midnight I was driving home and 280 was backed up for some reason, so I got off the Clinton St. exit in East Orange. I drove past the Brick Church station and then went down MLK which turns into Main St. in Orange. Every business was locked down with steel gates. The streets were completely deserted except for some homeless guys wandering around the sidewalks. I felt like I was driving through a post-war zone. I wouldn't have walked those streets if you paid me.
What do you expect for a city at midnight ,very few cities have a night life.... while you don't see steel gates in the suburbs , all the stores close and go dark by 10pm or 11pm. Most streets outside of Manhattan are empty by 10.30pm.....with a few exceptions.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Gates are a big deal. This argument is pointless I do like your optimistic view points but Orange and East Orange while not as bad as Irvington and Newark are bad and are not "up and coming communities" and I highly doubt it ever will be. And just having a train station is not going to gentrify East Orange and Orange.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:52 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Gates are a big deal. This argument is pointless I do like your optimistic view points but Orange and East Orange while not as bad as Irvington and Newark are bad and are not "up and coming communities" and I highly doubt it ever will be. And just having a train station is not going to gentrify East Orange and Orange.
Well , like i keep saying...and people keep ignoring gates and other Urban Jersey happenings are common in NYC yet ppl seem to forget this..... They starting putting up some new apartments in EO and a few other things that signals some sort of change is happening....
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Are there any other viable non-suburban towns in northern Jersey comparable to East Orange which have improved? I'm interested in areas with significant West Indian populations similar to Orange/East Orange without dealers on every block (if that is the case from what I'm reading here).
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