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Old 02-10-2010, 08:26 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Check out some urban areas of NJ and tell me your numbers add up. Honestly you are 110% wrong. I know classrooms with 28 to 30 kids right here in NJ.
Thats possible if they have an aid......but an aid can only perform certain functions......finally......I was wrong once.......that was the time I thought I was wrong but really wasn't.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Special ed classes are the only ones that have size limits.

Luckily, my district caps elementary classes at 22, but if new kids move into town and all the classes are at 22, the cap goes out the window. I have a friend that teaches in another district and has 28 kids in her class. She doesn't have an aide at all.
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Old 02-10-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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What wouldnt fly? Most people in the state have no clue what goes on in education other then in their little suburban town.
The little town won't cut their budget. We have a downturn now, and teachers are still getting their raises. The bottom line is that demand for education goes up in economic downturns, so the political will to fund it is there.

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Most problems in education are in urban cities where parental apathy is systemic. Dont be surprised to see huge classroom sizes in the the "inner" cities here in NJ.
I checked the numbers in njmonthly, and found little evidence that the "bad" schools had larger classes than the "good" ones.

The Abbott system ensures that these schools are well funded, so if they had large classes in those districts, it would not be because of lack of funds.
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Old 02-10-2010, 09:17 PM
 
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Special ed classes are the only ones that have size limits.

Luckily, my district caps elementary classes at 22, but if new kids move into town and all the classes are at 22, the cap goes out the window. I have a friend that teaches in another district and has 28 kids in her class. She doesn't have an aide at all.
You are correct.
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Old 02-10-2010, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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What I think they will do is pile in 30 to 35 kids per classroom and cut a good amount of teachers. If money is more important then education, I say go ahead and do it.
Maybe money is more important than the interests of the teachers union.

My question for you is, if it comes down to the interests of the teachers union versus the quality of education, which side are you on ?
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