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Old 04-03-2009, 03:49 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Schools should provide education and as part of the education process prepare the students for eventual drug testing which they will have to undergo in order to get a job.

Do the least expensive procedure. Guess dogs would be cheapest. Make the students who test positive pay for the test or a box of dog treats for the dog. Do not exclude teachers.
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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I am shocked at some of the responses in favor of this. Although i probably shouldnt be with the way a lot of people think these days

What's wrong with the responses in favor? There are jobs a plenty where drug testing is normal.
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Random? I doubt it. I don't doubt that some kids who aren't liked by faculty members will happen to randomly get tested every time there's a sweep.
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:42 PM
 
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The reality of the situation is that 2 dogs hired by a private company came into the school. A private security company is not required to report to the police. The school did their best to respect the student's rights. The dogs only checked lockers and were not allowed near students, who were in classrooms. Before people start putting down a school and a community that they know nothing about, they should know all of the facts and not pass judgement. A school is supposed to be a supportive environment where students can learn. Learning is interruped when students deal drugs in school or come to school high. The school was doing what was in the best interest of its students. Millburn High School is a very serious place that sets high expectations for its student who work very hard. Students have a right to learn in a drug-free environment. This happens in schools across the counrty every day. Except that the county Sheriff's department usually brings in lots of dogs and arrests are made. In my opinion, Millburn has treated the situation very delicately in comparison to other schools.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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What's wrong with the responses in favor? There are jobs a plenty where drug testing is normal.
You do not have to take one of those jobs. The school is an arm of the government which is taking bodily fluid from people who have presumably done nothing.

I object to the drug dogs on the grounds of the expense something like that entails, but I wouldn't do anything if I heard about it. Drug testing, though? Absolutely outrageous.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:50 PM
 
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The reality of the situation is that 2 dogs hired by a private company came into the school. A private security company is not required to report to the police. The school did their best to respect the student's rights. The dogs only checked lockers and were not allowed near students, who were in classrooms. Before people start putting down a school and a community that they know nothing about, they should know all of the facts and not pass judgement. A school is supposed to be a supportive environment where students can learn. Learning is interruped when students deal drugs in school or come to school high. The school was doing what was in the best interest of its students. Millburn High School is a very serious place that sets high expectations for its student who work very hard. Students have a right to learn in a drug-free environment. This happens in schools across the counrty every day. Except that the county Sheriff's department usually brings in lots of dogs and arrests are made. In my opinion, Millburn has treated the situation very delicately in comparison to other schools.
Of course, but no right to actual physical personal privacy.
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:11 PM
 
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Of course, but no right to actual physical personal privacy.
Lockers are still property of the school!
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:13 PM
 
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Lockers are still property of the school!
He is talking about randomly drug testing students....
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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Lockers are still property of the school!
I meant bodily privacy.
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Old 04-03-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: new jersey
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i've had plenty of interaction with millburn highschool girls in my job. (cosmetics at short hills mall) and they even say how out of hand drugs are in their school. these kids are already too grown up for their own good. i agree that by doing the drug testing and having the dogs, it will alleviate the need for kids to succumb to peer pressure. the kids in that school have a lot of disposable income, too many parents giving their kids money and not time, and if there is a way to deter them from spending it on drugs, i say go for it.
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