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Old 04-03-2007, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Bonn, Germany
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What's your vote?

We're in the process of making a choice between homes in each of these towns. Both homes are nearly the same price, the bigger home being in Randolph. My husband will be working in Florham park. We have special education needs for our 7 yr old son. We've heard great things about the schools in Chatham, Madison, and Randolph.

Any advice on which has the better shopping areas, neighborhoods, parks, etc...

It's really a toss-up between these two homes so we're hoping to get some additional advice to send us one way or the other.

Thanks so much!
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:51 PM
 
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Default Chatham's data looks better

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What's your vote?

We're in the process of making a choice between homes in each of these towns. Both homes are nearly the same price, the bigger home being in Randolph. My husband will be working in Florham park. We have special education needs for our 7 yr old son. We've heard great things about the schools in Chatham, Madison, and Randolph.

Any advice on which has the better shopping areas, neighborhoods, parks, etc...

It's really a toss-up between these two homes so we're hoping to get some additional advice to send us one way or the other.

Thanks so much!
From the statistical point of view Chatham township (not the borough) is definitely better. They have the best schools in Morris County. Also, their crime situation is much better: according to NJ state police survey, Randolph has gang presence while Chatham and Madison don't. 2005 crime index for Randolph is 8.3 compared to 3.9 for Chatham twp; Madison's crime index is 11.6. In other words, the probability to become a victim of crime in Chatham twp. is 2 times less than in Randolph and 3 times less than in Madison. Instead of Randolph and Madison, I would recommend Mendham and Chester townships; they have school and crime situation comparable with the Chathams, but the land lots are much bigger. Good luck!
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:40 AM
 
Location: NJ
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From the statistical point of view Chatham township (not the borough) is definitely better. They have the best schools in Morris County. Also, their crime situation is much better: according to NJ state police survey, Randolph has gang presence while Chatham and Madison don't. 2005 crime index for Randolph is 8.3 compared to 3.9 for Chatham twp; Madison's crime index is 11.6. In other words, the probability to become a victim of crime in Chatham twp. is 2 times less than in Randolph and 3 times less than in Madison. Instead of Randolph and Madison, I would recommend Mendham and Chester townships; they have school and crime situation comparable with the Chathams, but the land lots are much bigger. Good luck!
I think you need to qualify your statements a bit - the fact (?) that Randolph has twice the crime rate doesn't reflect that it is still VERY VERY safe - probably in the top 15-20% of the state. It's the difference between VERY VERY safe (Randolph) and VERY VERY VERY safe (Chatham). Your post gives the impression it's a crime ridden ghetto, which is hardly the case. Also, the schools are great in either place.

To the OP - you can't go wrong with either. They are both great towns (as is Mendham/Chester, but you're looking at HUGE bucks in Mendham). Aesthetically, I would go with Chatham (then Mendham then Chester then Randolph) first. If your desire is the bigger house, then you have nothing to worry about with moving to Randolph.

Good luck
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:42 AM
 
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Give me a break, Randolph does not have a gang presence. That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Skeptic, have you ever even visited the area, if you making such absurd statements?

All three towns you listed are nice, Randolph, Madison, and Chatham. They are just different towns. Randolph is more "exurban" than the other two, which are definitely suburban. Madison & Chatham both have a train line into NYC which is something to consider if you want to visit the city on the weekends.

I think out of the three I'd say that Madison has the nicest downtown with restaurants and little shops.
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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From the statistical point of view Chatham township (not the borough) is definitely better. They have the best schools in Morris County. Also, their crime situation is much better: according to NJ state police survey, Randolph has gang presence while Chatham and Madison don't. 2005 crime index for Randolph is 8.3 compared to 3.9 for Chatham twp; Madison's crime index is 11.6. In other words, the probability to become a victim of crime in Chatham twp. is 2 times less than in Randolph and 3 times less than in Madison. Instead of Randolph and Madison, I would recommend Mendham and Chester townships; they have school and crime situation comparable with the Chathams, but the land lots are much bigger. Good luck!
Not sure what planet you're getting your numbers from?

Randolph and Madison are both rated 1 and Chatham is rated 2

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Old 04-04-2007, 05:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Not sure what planet you're getting your numbers from?

Randolph and Madison are both rated 1 and Chatham is rated 2

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Skeptic must be living in "Bizarro NJ" - lol

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Old 04-04-2007, 05:25 PM
 
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Skeptic must be living in "Bizarro NJ" - lol
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Not sure what planet you're getting your numbers from?

Randolph and Madison are both rated 1 and Chatham is rated 2
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The crime rates I mentioned in my previous post come directly from NJ State Police:

2005 NJ Crime statistics (broken link)

FBI uses the same data for their annual report. So much for "Bizarro NJ"

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Old 04-04-2007, 05:39 PM
 
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Give me a break, Randolph does not have a gang presence. That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Skeptic, have you ever even visited the area, if you making such absurd statements?
Mead, I live in Randolph area The "most absurd thing" about the gang activity in Randolph is published on NJ State Police website:

2001-2004 NJ Gang Activity Survey
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Mead, I live in Randolph area The "most absurd thing" about the gang activity in Randolph is published on NJ State Police website:

2001-2004 NJ Gang Activity Survey
OMG! Princeton, Berkeley Heights, Bridgewater, Cape May, FAR HILLS (this CRACKS ME UP - maybe Christie, Malcolm Forbes and Jackie O and John-John when they were alive were part of a gang? Maybe the gang is called the "Blue Bloods", LOL), Hillsborough and Mountainside have gang activity! Run for the hills!

I'm not slogging through 70 pages, but I've seriously got to wonder what constitutes "gang activity" if some of the richest and most beautiful places in the state with zero crime report it.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The crime rates I mentioned in my previous post come directly from NJ State Police:

2005 NJ Crime statistics (http://http://njsp.org/info/ucr2005/pdf/2005-sect-7.pdf - broken link)

FBI uses the same data for their annual report. So much for "Bizarro NJ"
Bizarro...Linky no good.
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