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Old 06-08-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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LiveLeak.com - Cop beats man with a mental disorder standing on a street corner
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Canco, JC, NJ
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OK, so the cop obviously was putting him on the car to search/cuff him and the guy fought back and caught a beating. That is what happens when you fight the cops. Been on the receiving end of it, and deserved it myself.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:59 PM
 
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OK, so the cop obviously was putting him on the car to search/cuff him and the guy fought back and caught a beating. That is what happens when you fight the cops. Been on the receiving end of it, and deserved it myself.
Except of course the police are only allowed to use the amount of force required to subdue the person and not give the guy a beating because he resisted a minute ago.

Dealing with mentally ill people is difficult, then again that's why the police get trained and paid, though apparently not enough and too much in this case.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:05 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Except of course the police are only allowed to use the amount of force required to subdue the person and not give the guy a beating because he resisted a minute ago.

Dealing with mentally ill people is difficult, then again that's why the police get trained and paid, though apparently not enough and too much in this case.

A badge doesn't give you permission to treat anyone like this. There was only one officer dishing out the clearly unnecessary physical abuse.....his partner never got involved at all but should have to help clam down his out of control partner. If an office can't control his emotions in a relatively non-confrontational situation like this then how can he be trusted with a gun and deadly force in a more stressful situation ?
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Canco, JC, NJ
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how is the guy fighting the cop non confrontational? cop went to put him on the hood and the guy fought. he was fighting the whole time.

14 seconds in, cops come out of car

18 seconds in, male cop tries to put suspect on car, to cuff/search

19 seconds in, suspect fights back, cop has yet to do anything except try to get him on the car

20 - 35 seconds. Watch what is happening, the cop is hitting him, but is left hand has hold of suspects right arm. He is trying to get the suspect to roll over so he can be cuffed. Suspect is fighting the whole time.

36 to 55 cop is yelling at suspect, presumably trying to get him to comply.

56 seconds, cop tries to get him to the ground, again.

57 to 1:03 suspect still fighting.

1:03, other cops get hold of suspect and the original cop immediately stops, because the suspect is in custody, which is what he was trying to accomplish the whole time.

A badge does not give you the right to hand out a beating, but it does give you the right to take someone into custody, or restrain them, if you feel threatened. This was all he was trying to do. As soon as the guy was in custody, it stopped. The entire time, the cop was doing what they are trained to do, he was hitting him in the legs to take him down, he was trying to turn him over to cuff him. He was trying to get control of the situation. After it is all over and the suspect is in custody, the cop goes about the business of picking up the items that he dropped during the scuffle. He did not throw even one extra blow the entire time.

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Old 06-08-2009, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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There are a lot of people with mental disorders in Passaic
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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A badge does not give you the right to hand out a beating, but it does give you the right to take someone into custody, or restrain them, if you feel threatened.
Absolutely......except this mentally ill person was only standing on a corner doing NOTHING when the police came by and started harrassing him......I'd like to hear specifically how this officer felt "threatened" sitting in his car by a man standing on a corner doing NOTHING !!! It was the police who initiated the confrontation when there was no need for a confrontation at all. The poor guy didn't even offer resistance when he was being beaten with a club and the officers fists.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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90% of cops are power trippy. Sorry if the truth hurts but honestly when a cop gets his butt kicked I could see how a lot of people are happy about it. Crazy to give a person soooo much power without a college degree. Not that a degree is the end all be all but it would weed out a lot of dumb cops.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:43 PM
 
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WTF is up with the people who are walking their kids right past an ongoing incident?
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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90% of cops are power trippy. Sorry if the truth hurts but honestly when a cop gets his butt kicked I could see how a lot of people are happy about it. Crazy to give a person soooo much power without a college degree. Not that a degree is the end all be all but it would weed out a lot of dumb cops.
Exaggerate much?

There are some bad apples, but the majority of police officers aren't power-trippy egomaniacs. I'm sure for every story like this, there are at least a dozen other officers who would've handled the situation more professionally. It just so happens that incidents like this make headlines and the dozen cases not like it don't.
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