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Old 06-28-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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The number of drivers talking on cell phones and texting while driving hasn't changed after the law banned it. This law is another waste of time for our law enforcement. I'm not saying it isn't a good idea, but people will ignore it.
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Default two elected positions at once....

You'd figure that the state would ban dual office holders in the same light they find it harmful to participate in other activities while driving.

Oh yes, they did, sort of.

Another feel good 'law' that cannot be enforced because of the large number of drivers vs the small number of police looking to enforce the law.

No, you shouldn't be driving and phoning or texting or whatever because it does present a real danger. Distracted driving rules should be enough to cover these infractions.

Passing laws like this 'teach' the public that many of these laws can be disregarded. The state therefore teaches the public to disregard the law in general. Lawyers go a step further and turn laws into creative works of art for those who can afford it.

Random enforcement enables subjective bias and prejudice in the application of law. With so many of these goofy laws on the books, police/ prosecutors can play out their prejudices under the blanket of public safety.

Laws already exist with regard to distracted driving without passing more 'feel good' laws. Make cell phone, gps, etc exceptions on insurance policy payment. Do what you do, but don't expect to get comped if you screw up. Every driving cell phone user, drunk, etc. you see is telling you they have no concern for your safety and could care less if you die in the gravel on the side of the road. More importantly they scream, " I'm stupid and wreckless and don't care what happens to me so why should I care about you?"
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:54 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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This is the sentiment I was trying to convey, in my overly blunt way.

Besides, in a free society people should be free to do whatever they want, provided they dont infringe on anyone else's rights. If they started cracking down on people that infringe on the rights of others, there would be no need to ban GPS's or phones, or anything else. If an accident is deemed to be your fault, you lose your license for 6 months. If someone is hurt, add assault charges. If someone is killed, manslaughter. There really are very few "accidents". Probably 9 times out of 10, someone is not paying attention to what they are doing. People will continue not paying attention as long as we treat car crashes like they are unavoidable "accidents". If we are a lot more strict on the perpetrators of crashes, people will regulate their own cell phone use, gps use, make-up, eating, and speeding in pedestrian areas. If you knew that a fender bender would cost you your license for 6 months, wouldn't you be a little more careful? I know I would.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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You'd figure that the state would ban dual office holders in the same light they find it harmful to participate in other activities while driving.

Oh yes, they did, sort of.

Another feel good 'law' that cannot be enforced because of the large number of drivers vs the small number of police looking to enforce the law.

No, you shouldn't be driving and phoning or texting or whatever because it does present a real danger. Distracted driving rules should be enough to cover these infractions.

Passing laws like this 'teach' the public that many of these laws can be disregarded. The state therefore teaches the public to disregard the law in general. Lawyers go a step further and turn laws into creative works of art for those who can afford it.

Random enforcement enables subjective bias and prejudice in the application of law. With so many of these goofy laws on the books, police/ prosecutors can play out their prejudices under the blanket of public safety.

Laws already exist with regard to distracted driving without passing more 'feel good' laws. Make cell phone, gps, etc exceptions on insurance policy payment. Do what you do, but don't expect to get comped if you screw up. Every driving cell phone user, drunk, etc. you see is telling you they have no concern for your safety and could care less if you die in the gravel on the side of the road. More importantly they scream, " I'm stupid and wreckless and don't care what happens to me so why should I care about you?"
Haha. This will never happen in NJ. I wish it would. The Mayor of North Bergen some years ago was reportedly to be a elementary school principal and state senator at the same time. I've heard of holding down multiple jobs, but this is absurd. Three jobs at once, and I'm sure they all had his undivided attention. It's stuff like this gives NJ the reputation it deserves when it comes to the corruption that is not to be believed.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: NYC / NJ Metro Area
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Sure, there have been times when my GPS will go crazy and I have to re-program it while still driving. However, I spend FAR more time fiddling with the radio and AC/heat controls while driving. Are they going to ban those any time soon? I can't speak for others but I'm a much better driver with my GPS than without. Does any one remember the days our only choice was to either drive around with maps or internet mapquest instructions on our laps trying to figure out how to get to our destination? And God forbid the wind blows and the instructions fly into the back seat or out the window! Now how safe is that?
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