What do you like to do when you go to NY?

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When we visit Manhattan, we usually end up in Little Italy for dinner, which we really enjoy.

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Originally Posted by ReluctantGardenStater

Technically, you are correct, when you refer to the "New York, NY" nomenclature. It is however, generally symbolic of a more disturbing trend. The disgusting habit of the ignorant to ignore the existence of NY (the state; the "NYS" terminology is ridiculous as it's inappropriate to cater to one area of the state with such a distinction, as if a state's own city can usurp its title and total importance) and suggest in their comments that New York City is essentially a state in itself and more relevant than the state in which it is located is barbaric.

Again, with the Boston, Massachusetts and the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania situation, you are correct, but I was referring to (perhaps with an improper analogy) the general trend of the modern city-worshipper to boil all of Massachusetts down to Boston and all of Pennsylvania down to "Philly". It's barbarism, plain and simple, and NJers, as a neighbor to both New York and Pennsylvania, should try to correct that ugly generalization, but instead we tend to be the worst offenders. The relevance of New York City and Philadelphia to New Jersey does not excuse the second-class status given to entire states.

There's no reason any NJ resident, with the exception of the commuters, should lend any special treatment to NYC and Philadelphia, and ignore entire states in the vicious manner that they seem to be doing. It's great that young hipsters love to walk around NYC, but give me a weekend in the Finger Lakes region anytime.

But what do you think of the food in NYC? Pretty good, right?

[BergenCountyJohnny]

Originally Posted by ReluctantGardenStater

Technically, you are correct, when you refer to the "New York, NY" nomenclature. It is however, generally symbolic of a more disturbing trend. The disgusting habit of the ignorant to ignore the existence of NY (the state; the "NYS" terminology is ridiculous as it's inappropriate to cater to one area of the state with such a distinction, as if a state's own city can usurp its title and total importance) and suggest in their comments that New York City is essentially a state in itself and more relevant than the state in which it is located is barbaric.

Barbaric? To talk about particular cities rather than entire states? Why? And who "suggest[ed] in their comments that New York City is essentially a state in itself"??? You're really reading into this something that just isn't there, and sorry to break it to you, but NY City IS "more relevant than the state in which it is located is" as far as New Jerseyans are concerned, because it is NY City and its metro area which border NJ. The only impact or effect the Finger Lakes or the cities of Buffalo or Syracuse or any other upstate NY area would have on NJ or those of us who live in NJ is if we choose to go out of our way to go there. NY City, and its metro area, however, have an impact on us even when if we don't go there.

To say that people are "ignorant" because they live in NJ and pay attention to NY city (or Philly) while not paying as much attention to the entire states of NY or PA is, in itself, ignorant. You are ignoring the simple fact that those states, beyond the metro areas of NYC and Philly, are irrelevant to people in NJ unless we go out of our way to GO there.

Why do you consider it OK to talk about the Finger Lakes while ignoring Plattsburgh and Watertown, but then it's "ignorant" for someone to talk about a city region and not the rest of the state? I would never suggest you are ignorant because you talk about the Finger Lakes and not Rouses Point, or if you talked about State College, PA and ignored Johnstown; yet, you are doing exactly that to others.

Originally Posted by ReluctantGardenStater

Again, with the Boston, Massachusetts and the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania situation, you are correct, but I was referring to (perhaps with an improper analogy) the general trend of the modern city-worshipper to boil all of Massachusetts down to Boston and all of Pennsylvania down to "Philly". It's barbarism, plain and simple, and NJers, as a neighbor to both New York and Pennsylvania, should try to correct that ugly generalization, but instead we tend to be the worst offenders. The relevance of New York City and Philadelphia to New Jersey does not excuse the second-class status given to entire states.

There's no reason any NJ resident, with the exception of the commuters, should lend any special treatment to NYC and Philadelphia, and ignore entire states in the vicious manner that they seem to be doing.

No reason? How about these reasons:
- Many NJ residents rely on business from NYC and Philly residents
- Most NJ residents get the bulk of their media from NYC or Philly
- Many NJ residents are indeed commuters to NYC and Philly and spend most of their days in those cities.
- NYC openly acknowledges North Jersey as part of its metro area; news and weather reports reflect this, as does the fact that both NYC football teams play in NJ (and those aren't NY STATE football teams - people in Rochester are NOT NY Giants or Jets fans, they're Buffalo fans).

How you could not know this stuff, I don't know.

Originally Posted by ReluctantGardenStater

It's great that young hipsters love to walk around NYC, but give me a weekend in the Finger Lakes region anytime.

More than just hipsters love to walk around NY and other cities. And doing so does not exclude a person from also enjoying visiting other places like the Finger Lakes or Jersey Shore or the Adirondacks, either.