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Old 09-03-2009, 12:02 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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I'll maintain it up to Election Day: if Corzine DOES NOT win this election, I will be shocked. The polls have Christie up now by only 10 points in one poll, and 5 in another. NJ usually breaks late for the socialist candidate. Even Jim Florio, in 1993, if you all remember, almost got elected even though in the NW New Jersey counties he was the most villified pol since Richard Nixon.
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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I'll maintain it up to Election Day: if Corzine DOES NOT win this election, I will be shocked. The polls have Christie up now by only 10 points in one poll, and 5 in another. NJ usually breaks late for the socialist candidate. Even Jim Florio, in 1993, if you all remember, almost got elected even though in the NW New Jersey counties he was the most villified pol since Richard Nixon.
You don't think Christie is holding attack ads about all the corruption last month in his back pocket? Christie made his bones getting those people. He's holding on to that, with a promise that he can back up: fight the corruption. Corzine promised it but couldn't do it, no experience doing it. Christie does.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:03 PM
 
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Maybe people should just vote for the candidate that runs the most ads that are POSITIVE rather than negative?

We have been eating this kind of campaign up for 30 years now (Reagan, and possibly before), if it did not WORK, they would stop using it.

I am tired of BOTH SIDES using it, a 1% increase in sales tax is not the end of the world, and neither is a personal $46K loan.

Maybe we need a 3rd party... :P
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:41 PM
 
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Seriously, if Lonegan was running third party with money backing him up, this would be the most awesome election ever.

Lonegan is nuts, has a big mouth, and just doesn't care. He rules. I wouldn't vote for him, but definitely fun to watch.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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I would not be surprised if we saw 4 more years of Corzine. He is outspending Christie by a huge amount and using smear tactics.

Christies ad's are pretty pathetic. His ad's basically say "you voted for change by voting for Obama, vote for change in NJ by voting for Christie". What does that even mean? Christie really does not have anything in common at all with Obama.

He is dropping the ball.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:36 PM
 
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Default NJ politics...

Once I find employment and get back on my feet in two years tops I'll move out of this godforsaken state. My political views are center-left and I voted for Barack Obama for President.

But when it came to politics in New Jersey I always had my doubts. Upon turning 18 I voted for Christie Whitman when she ran for reelection and after walking out of the polling station I said to myself aloud, "Wait a minute! What the hell did I just do?"

And when Jim McGreevey ran for Governor I voted for a third-party candidate because again, this is New Jersey and I had doubts.

When November 3 rolls around, I'll vote third-party again. I know whoever I vote for will not win the election but I always believe voting is my most powerful form of public opinion and I will voice that opinion to tell Corzine and Christie that I do not like either one of them.

And again on that day I will walk out of that voting booth saying to myself aloud, "Wait a minute! What the hell did I just do?"
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:51 AM
 
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I would not be surprised if we saw 4 more years of Corzine. He is outspending Christie by a huge amount and using smear tactics.

Christies ad's are pretty pathetic. His ad's basically say "you voted for change by voting for Obama, vote for change in NJ by voting for Christie". What does that even mean? Christie really does not have anything in common at all with Obama.

He is dropping the ball.
I confess I don't watch a lot of local TV, but I've seen the Corzine ads (during the 5 and 6pm news, basically the only time we watch "live" TV), I have yet to see a Christie ad. If we're like your basic household today (news watchers, but watch a lot of cable or TiVO'ed stuff), he better get on the ball.

But, if CHRISTie doesn't win, his followers won't blame him anyway for a bad campaign (because that would mean taking responsibility), it'll be Corzine or urban people's fault. Waa waa.
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:30 AM
 
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The finger always points, but it is never turned inwards.

The same thing about positives. We never elect who we like the most these days, but who we hate the least...
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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The finger always points, but it is never turned inwards.

The same thing about positives. We never elect who we like the most these days, but who we hate the least...
wow - this is my new status! love it!
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:59 PM
 
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Every so often I come up with a good one.

And sometimes I even write it down!
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