Fox Poll Released-Who is Responsible for Econ Mess

[CaptainNJ]

i dont like hannity nearly as much as rush. hannity can get on your nerves if you arent a christian. hannity also used to attack people for criticizing bush "during a time of war." as if you couldnt say anything negative about the president as long as we have some kind of ongoing military conflict. i thought that was a retarded notion and it turned me off of him big time.

[simetime]

Originally Posted by Wingfoot

What a load of BS.
The only socialism in the USA is for the rich and super rich.
If you gave 20 million "welfare moms"(we all know you mean blacks) 1000$ a month for TWO THOUSAND YEARS it would be less that WALL Street received in a weekend on the dont ask dont tell plan no less.

The only thing never going away is the vile hatred that rightists define their lives by.

You know the weird thing about that statement? There are more whites on welfare than blacks....check your stats. If I'm wrong (which I'm not) there is aserious racial probelm in this country

[C2Cfan]

Originally Posted by CaptainNJ

yeah, i really wouldnt blame bush or obama for the current economic mess. i would say that both of them seem to be doing (or done) their best to screw things up even more.

Agree.

And let's not forget that George Soros manipulated the market (in Sept. 2008) to the extent that a bailout became necessary. Both parties are in bed with Wall Street. We need to work to audit and disband the Federal Reserve (neither federal nor having any reserves) and bring back the gold standard. Paper currency is well on its way to being worthless--backed by nothing! We need to bring industry and small farms back to the country, too. It'd be nice if we'd turn the water back on for the farmers in Cali's bread basket.

I loathe, loathe, loathe BOTH parties. I have a vision of members leaving in droves and going Indy. It's the only way to put the power back in the hands of the people.

[C2Cfan]

Originally Posted by VeradoDan

Bush started the spending spree, but it was a bipartisan effort of lunatic lefty Democrats and impotent Republicans that spurred the mortgage mess by forcing banks to lend to unqualified people all in the name of "diversity" in home ownership. For his part, Bush was largely the anti-conservative fiscally and spending went through the roof.

Only problem is that Obama is doing pretty much the same thing Bush did - only worse. It's funny, as much as he talked about "change," Obama is pretty much continuing every Bush policy under the sun aside from healthcare and cap-and-trade, both of which will WORSEN the economy in terms of employment and innovation.

BINGO! And so much for "transparency" and "We are not the red states of America or the blue states of America; we are the United States of America." My. Dimpled. Azz!

But I digress. Returning to the topic of the economy, we can go back even farther, to Dhimmi Carter, where we have the beginnings of the Fannie-Freddie-ACORN subprime mortgage mess. Wish I could take back that vote for president!

Having been in the Southwest since June 2007, I find it frightening how little East Coasters truly know about ACORN. I voted in a caucus state (NV) in Nov. 2008. My Dem. caucus, and those across the country, were a sham. ACORN-SEIU thugs verbally and physically abused non-Utopia (er, Obama) voters; violated rules galore; misled/misdirected voters; locked out ONLY late-coming non-Obama voters; mistreated the elderly; and outright CHEATED. CHEATED, G-D it!

Despite copious evidence and eyewitness firsthand accounts, the Dem Sec of State, Ross Miller, turned a blind eye. Interestingly enough, KNPR radio invited me and another witness to speak on-air, to have an "open discussion." In fact, he got us in to lambaste us. Nonetheless, two weeks thereafter, the FBI raided the Las Vegas office of ACORN. And, finally, the Dem. attorney general followed up, and is still working on the case.

Four months after the fake caucuses (remember--the vote is NOT secret; you risked your life supporting any Dem candidate other than Utopia or, heaven forbid, bearing a bumper sticker for someone other than he), there followed the DNC's RBC meeting, which I watched, uncut, on CSPAN...oh, except for the part where they violated the Sunshine Laws and went off-air for a period of time, to meet behind closed doors.

What hypocrites. The DNC, led by Herr Doktor Dean, Donna Brazile, and the rest of the gang of losers, cried about violating laws re Michigan, etc. Then they turned around and violated their own party constitution, which says that Uncommitted is a candidate in its own right, from which no delegates can be taken. Then they heaped them all (the MI Uncommitted delegates) on their CHOSEN candidate, Utopia, and took four more from HRC for good measure.

The next day, I ripped up my Dem voting card and sent it to Dean. I reregistered as a Nonpartisan, which is an actual designation in NV. They don't have that here in AZ, so I'm an Indy. Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty...

BOTH PARTIES SUCK! Look for the truth, is what I say, as opposed to keeping oneself entrenched in the party rut you've dug for yourself, spewing the party line in kneejerk fashion. Not all Repubs suck. Many Dems are hypocrites. SHOCKING what one can see from the middle as opposed to either extreme.

Whew. I feel better now. Apologies for the long post (which no one will read, anyway ).

[stargazzer]

Thats quite a mouthful, wow. Your still looking at little things. Set your sites on
overall things. Overall , we could say attitude is overall out of control and without direction. People get suckered into little things that suround their existance and get all worked up about it when , overall its consistant with ....our first thing overall, ATTITUDE

[ottomobeale]

Where is the name of every member of the Senate finance committee for the past decade? (BOTH parties)

Bush gets his rightful lumps.

Those guys still have their jobs and they also had a HUGE part to play.

Obama has not been president long enough for credit or blame on the economy.

[ottomobeale]

>The only socialism in the USA is for the rich and super rich.
If you gave 20 million "welfare moms"(we all know you mean blacks) 1000$ a month for TWO THOUSAND YEARS it would be less that WALL Street received in a weekend on the dont ask dont tell plan no less.<

20 million x 12 months x 1000 dollars = 240 billion dollars
240 billion x 2000 = 480 trillion

If you are gonna make up statistics. dont make them so easy to disprove.

The bailout of the banking system was necessary. The execution was inept and those responsible should all have lost their jobs. Ownership of the affected banks probably should have been taken away outright. But if not for that bailout and Fed actions, the whole system would have collapsed.

Yes much to the delight of gold bugs, conspiracy kooks and general left and right wing nut jobs. But unemployment would be 30%+ not 10% that is bad enough. Anyone secretly thinking "good" to 30% unemployment needs a beat down. To wish that many more millions of people out of work...

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by ottomobeale

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The bailout of the banking system was necessary. The execution was inept and those responsible should all have lost their jobs. Ownership of the affected banks probably should have been taken away outright. But if not for that bailout and Fed actions, the whole system would have collapsed.

Yes much to the delight of gold bugs, conspiracy kooks and general left and right wing nut jobs. But unemployment would be 30%+ not 10% that is bad enough. Anyone secretly thinking "good" to 30% unemployment needs a beat down. To wish that many more millions of people out of work...

All of this is just about right.