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11-09-2009, 08:06 PM
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Good, I hope he uses every possible tool at his disposal to knock some reality into the unions. They negotiated annual raises for 2009 and 2010 under Corzine, during a time when many in the private sector are losing their jobs or facing wage cuts. Well, that's just plain unrealistic, if not downright selfish. Perhaps if they had considered giving a hand in the past they wouldn't be facing losing a whole arm now.
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11-09-2009, 09:31 PM
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he can win the war with the CWA, but the NJEA...not so much.
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11-10-2009, 07:33 AM
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Location: Stuck in AZ for now
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Thanks for the link. I enjoyed the article AND reading (and posting) comments on the site.  |
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11-10-2009, 08:07 AM
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Location: New Milford, NJ
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Thanks for the link!! Did anyone notice in the article that the 45,000 state workers who were furloughed for a week were later paid for that week off??!! I didn't know that, what a bunch of BS, they got an extra week off and didn't have to work for that money so we never saved a dime. And guaranteeing no layoffs until December 2010 for the CWA Union workers? Must be nice to know you're not getting laid off when the rest of the state is sucking wind. And raises for both 2009 and 2010 to boot.
We need a revolution in this country not just at the state level but nationally speaking!! 
I hope Christie can do something about the situation but he certainly inherited a huge mess. And I'm glad he's not cutting education funds, everyone always complains about the teachers and the NJEA. Sorry but my son's teachers are averaging $51K a year. That's not a hell of a lot in Bergen County, NJ. If we're gonna pick on the teachers AGAIN, because we all know it's always their fault, why don't we look at the salaries of the administrators while we're at it, that's where the money is going. Oh and while we're at it, check out your local cops' salaries, you might be surprised what they're pulling down both on the job and for retirement. Hell of a lot more than the teachers so let's stop with that old tired argument please. And no I'm not a teacher but I do support them thank you.  |
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11-10-2009, 08:17 AM
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Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Originally Posted by onegreatnurse
Thanks for the link!! Did anyone notice in the article that the 45,000 state workers who were furloughed for a week were later paid for that week off??!! I didn't know that, what a bunch of BS, they got an extra week off and didn't have to work for that money so we never saved a dime. And guaranteeing no layoffs until December 2010 for the CWA Union workers? Must be nice to know you're not getting laid off when the rest of the state is sucking wind. And raises for both 2009 and 2010 to boot.
We need a revolution in this country not just at the state level but nationally speaking!!
I hope Christie can do something about the situation but he certainly inherited a huge mess. And I'm glad he's not cutting education funds, everyone always complains about the teachers and the NJEA. Sorry but my son's teachers are averaging $51K a year. That's not a hell of a lot in Bergen County, NJ. If we're gonna pick on the teachers AGAIN, because we all know it's always their fault, why don't we look at the salaries of the administrators while we're at it, that's where the money is going. Oh and while we're at it, check out your local cops' salaries, you might be surprised what they're pulling down both on the job and for retirement. Hell of a lot more than the teachers so let's stop with that old tired argument please. And no I'm not a teacher but I do support them thank you. |
So you just shifted blame from one group to another. As with the teachers your average patrol cop is making about the same as the teachers you referred to...it's the high ranking police offcials that rake in the dough. Both complaints are getting old & tiresome...bottom line is we can not have our cake & eat it too..if we want the services NJ provides we are going to pay for it. |
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11-10-2009, 08:19 AM
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Location: Stuck in AZ for now
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Originally Posted by onegreatnurse
Thanks for the link!! Did anyone notice in the article that the 45,000 state workers who were furloughed for a week were later paid for that week off??!! I didn't know that, what a bunch of BS, they got an extra week off and didn't have to work for that money so we never saved a dime. And guaranteeing no layoffs until December 2010 for the CWA Union workers? Must be nice to know you're not getting laid off when the rest of the state is sucking wind. And raises for both 2009 and 2010 to boot.
We need a revolution in this country not just at the state level but nationally speaking!!
I hope Christie can do something about the situation but he certainly inherited a huge mess. And I'm glad he's not cutting education funds, everyone always complains about the teachers and the NJEA. Sorry but my son's teachers are averaging $51K a year. That's not a hell of a lot in Bergen County, NJ. If we're gonna pick on the teachers AGAIN, because we all know it's always their fault, why don't we look at the salaries of the administrators while we're at it, that's where the money is going. Oh and while we're at it, check out your local cops' salaries, you might be surprised what they're pulling down both on the job and for retirement. Hell of a lot more than the teachers so let's stop with that old tired argument please. And no I'm not a teacher but I do support them thank you. |
For what it's worth (just an opinion, so not much), I agree with you on almost every score. I do, however, part company with you to some extent on the topic of teachers. A COMPETENT teacher deserves to be paid well. Unfortunately, it's been my experience that most teachers can neither articulate nor punctuate as well as you, a nurse. So when I encounter teachers grousing on an open forum, I will critically assess their respective posts and unleash snark and corrections as circumstances may warrant.
To do so is, imo, our duty to the schoolchildren of New Jersey. |
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11-10-2009, 09:38 AM
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Location: Montgomery County, PA
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A COMPETENT teacher deserves to be paid well. Unfortunately, it's been my experience that most teachers can neither articulate nor punctuate as well as you, a nurse.
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The problem is that the existing system doesn't differentiate between good and bad teachers. |
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11-10-2009, 09:42 AM
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Location: NJ
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and it doesnt have to. its a very simple job. it should be standardized not unique depending on the teachers abilities.
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11-10-2009, 09:56 AM
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Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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and it doesnt have to. its a very simple job. it should be standardized not unique depending on the teachers abilities.
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So you think!!! I can come up with many descriptions for a teaching job...simple would not be one of them |
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