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Old 07-03-2007, 07:23 PM
 
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I still think a much bigger problem is bullies that torment so many kids and make school a living hell.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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Hi. Yes, there is a cause for concern with gangs in NJ... but isn't Brick, NJ the safest town in America or something like that?? I would not worry about it. Lots of schools are doing workshops in school regarding gangs just so people are aware that it does exist. You live in a nice suburban area... not Paterson, Newark, or Camden. Most of the "gangs" in your area are little a$$shole punks who are trying to be tough and cool. These are just typical bullies with a scarier name?
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Jersey
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Do your online research, there is more gang activity in NJ than we realize. Statistically, we have approx. 35,000 gang members all over this state and the number is growing.

Whether or not it is in your community currently, the best thing you can do is be wise to possibility of it. Should we live in fear? Even though that's hard, No. But you can stay educated. Just because you live in a nice area doesn't mean there aren't members selected to target those areas somehow. Keep in mind, 40-50 years ago, Newark was a nice area too.

Lastly, someone made a comment about "wanna-be's". I'm sure there are plenty of those, however, it doesn't mean they're not dangerous.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:02 AM
 
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Do your online research, there is more gang activity in NJ than we realize. Statistically, we have approx. 35,000 gang members all over this state and the number is growing.

Whether or not it is in your community currently, the best thing you can do is be wise to possibility of it. Should we live in fear? Even though that's hard, No. But you can stay educated. Just because you live in a nice area doesn't mean there aren't members selected to target those areas somehow. Keep in mind, 40-50 years ago, Newark was a nice area too.

Lastly, someone made a comment about "wanna-be's". I'm sure there are plenty of those, however, it doesn't mean they're not dangerous.
I think it really depends on your definition of dangerous. Because a lot of these kids who want to be ghetto scatter when the real *ish hits the fan. On the other hand you have kids who will stop at nothing to prove just how 'gangsta' they really are. I think that just because a kid wears colors it doesn't make him a gangsta as much as he'd want you to believe it. Strangely enough, I think these 'wannabees' can be salvaged because a lot of them don't do it because it's their environment, they do it because they think its 'cool'
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Jersey
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I agree, to a degree. It's definitely becoming a "trend". Don't ask me why because I can't even fathom the idea of that being trendy, but hey, that's me.

However, even with the "trend", we still have to be careful because you do hear about these kids jumping kids in school, beating up elderly women/men, robbing stores, pushing drugs, stealing bikes, whatever. Crime is crime and like you said, unfortunately even the unofficial ones will go out on a limb to prove themselves.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:30 PM
 
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Most of the "gangs" in your area are little a$$shole punks who are trying to be tough and cool. These are just typical bullies with a scarier name?
Yeah, sure. Go say that to a gang of "wannabe's" on some corner in Newark. In fact any city will do. You will end up like that stupid women in NYC who was getting mugged and said "What are you going to do. Shoot me?". You know what happened. Gangs are gangs no matter which way you put it.

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Do your online research, there is more gang activity in NJ than we realize. Statistically, we have approx. 35,000 gang members all over this state and the number is growing.
More then that, those are just gang members that admited to being in a gang when locked up. There are more. Many more.
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:32 PM
 
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I see that you're in denial, I saw your other post touting the boro, either you are blind, foolish or peddling real estate. There are many issues in the boro, it has many low income types, illegals and other crime problems. Why anyone would choose to live there when they could go 1 mile in any direction and be able to avoid all the crap associated with the boro is beyond me
I live here and work as an attorney in the boro (where I was recently the municipal public defender, so I have some insight on the crime that occurs here). You, on the other hand, are living in Fla, or the A. Highlands. You are not exactly near the boro, and only know what you hear. I'm just a little sick of the exaggerations, hence the reason I posted on this and the other thread.

Do you really think that there are gangs in the boro? Or is that something that you want to believe? (that was rhetorical, no need to answer)
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:45 PM
 
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Yeah, sure. Go say that to a gang of "wannabe's" on some corner in Newark. In fact any city will do. You will end up like that stupid women in NYC who was getting mugged and said "What are you going to do. Shoot me?". You know what happened. Gangs are gangs no matter which way you put it.


More then that, those are just gang members that admited to being in a gang when locked up. There are more. Many more.
katelyn already acknowledged NJs 3 largest cities with gang problems. It's the suburbs that have most of the infamous 'wannabees'. A Livingston, NJ gang (if there is such a thing) just isn't the same as a Newark gang. A lot of inner city kids join gangs for protection, status, and gain whereas a lot of middle-class suburban gangs exist because it's just the hot thing to do as stated by pixieshmoo
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:53 PM
 
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From The New York Times

By ANNIE CORREAL
Published: July 1, 2007
Gangs, Too, Flee Cities for the Suburbs

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Old 07-06-2007, 08:41 PM
 
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From The New York Times

By ANNIE CORREAL
I have a question about this. If the gangs that aren't commiting crimes are present, how can law enforcement tell? Not for nothing, but the Bloods gang is not a super-structure in the nation based on heirarchy. There are numerous sub-divisions with their own infrastructure that have their own leaders and do not answer to a single leader.
There is no doubt gang-presence in the suburbs, but these same areas are also saturated with self-proclaimed 'gangstas' that practice the same things
There's an article in New Jersey mag about gang recruiting moving to the suburbs. This is by all means unacceptable and I still think the suburban kids who need SO bad to be ghetto can be salvaged/saved. We have to teach these kids that 'gangdom' isn't an ascension but a descent into an oblivion with unwanted consequence
As earlier stated, a 'wanksta' can be more dangerous than a full-up gang-member on the mere fact that the wansksta has much more to prove.

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