Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New Jersey
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-26-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,745,357 times
Reputation: 3146

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by BergenCountyJohnny View Post
So, it's OK for Christie to make the unemployed flee the state so we can get our house in order, but it's not OK for Corzine to raise taxes or tolls and cause people to flee so we can get our house in order???

Now I've heard it all.

Unfortunately the unemployed do not pay taxes or create jobs so given the choice between having the unemployed leave or the the folks who pay taxes and create jobes, I would say it is a no brainer.

By the way what makes you think the unemployed are fleeing the state?

Last edited by shorebaby; 02-26-2010 at 03:33 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-26-2010, 03:50 PM
 
259 posts, read 662,371 times
Reputation: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorebaby View Post
Of course Christie is right, he is an adult trying to make hard decisions. I feel sorry for the unemployed but if we do not get our house in order in NJ there will be a lot more people unemployed as businesses flee the state because of the level of taxation that will be required if we do not cut spending.

I find it instructive that with every cut he proposes there are complaints in this forum. Would you have him cut NO spending or only spending that affects the other guy? The reality is we will all end up paying some now. Better that then more later.
Mod cutgoing after the unemployed is a calculated weaksauce move. There are other things that can be considered before cutting jobless benefits. Thankgod this is a heavily democratic state because that proposal wouldnt stick on a crap filled wall.

There are complaints whith every cut he proposes because it's obvious he and his staff dont have the brain power to figure out an alternative way to close the gap. There are many programs that can be eliminated in this state but he just chooses not to step on the shoes of the rich who supported and contributed to his election. Dont be a homer

Last edited by Viralmd; 02-26-2010 at 04:02 PM.. Reason: Language
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 03:55 PM
 
259 posts, read 662,371 times
Reputation: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorebaby View Post
Unfortunately the unemployed do not pay taxes or create jobs so given the choice between having the unemployed leave or the the folks who pay taxes and create jobes, I would say it is a no brainer.

By the way what makes you think the unemployed are fleeing the state?

the unemployed dont pay taxes? Really, they along with their employer pay into the fund. While they might not have to pay state income tax on it, they have to pay federal tax on it. Also unemployed people on benefits buy things that get taxed with sales tax, they pay their property tax etc. For every 1 dollar of unemployment is giving, 1.60 is returned to the local economy.

Before sounding off, maybe you need to learn some facts before you go all out and join in on the typical GOP propoganda. And the fact is Christie is just posturing for more federal money and he is going to get it.

I could understand taking 10 dollars a week a way like PA did, but 50 is a direct slap in the face. Ask Christie to cut down on 50 calories a week, see how he likes it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,745,357 times
Reputation: 3146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubz View Post
Mod cutgoing after the unemployed is a calculated weaksauce move. There are other things that can be considered before cutting jobless benefits. Thankgod this is a heavily democratic state because that proposal wouldnt stick on a crap filled wall.

There are complaints whith every cut he proposes because it's obvious he and his staff dont have the brain power to figure out an alternative way to close the gap. There are many programs that can be eliminated in this state but he just chooses not to step on the shoes of the rich who supported and contributed to his election. Dont be a homer

I suggest you search this form for whining about NJT raising fares. There will always be complaining about whatever CHristie does to fix the problem, but he is a grown up and realizes this and will do what needs to be done to get us on better footing.

You will be happy for this medicine years from now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,745,357 times
Reputation: 3146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubz View Post
the unemployed dont pay taxes? Really, they along with their employer pay into the fund. While they might not have to pay state income tax on it, they have to pay federal tax on it. Also unemployed people on benefits buy things that get taxed with sales tax, they pay their property tax etc. For every 1 dollar of unemployment is giving, 1.60 is returned to the local economy.

Before sounding off, maybe you need to learn some facts before you go all out and join in on the typical GOP propoganda. And the fact is Christie is just posturing for more federal money and he is going to get it.

I could understand taking 10 dollars a week a way like PA did, but 50 is a direct slap in the face. Ask Christie to cut down on 50 calories a week, see how he likes it.
Are you trying to argue that the unemployed contribute more to the economy than the employed and people who create jobs? No wonder you are upset by Christie's cost cutting measures.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Vermont
5,439 posts, read 16,855,804 times
Reputation: 2651
What is the maximum unemployment benefit?

what I thought was interesting was here is Christie talking about how its onl $200 a month. $200 a month is a lot when you are unemployed?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
19,890 posts, read 18,745,357 times
Reputation: 3146
OK lets try this. Someone please suggest a cut or a tax that no one will object to. Oh yeah make sure it adds up to $2 billion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Vermont
5,439 posts, read 16,855,804 times
Reputation: 2651
we should put the unemployed to work as toll collectors obviously........
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 04:58 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
5,818 posts, read 12,620,766 times
Reputation: 4414
Quote:
Originally Posted by joe moving View Post
What is the maximum unemployment benefit?

what I thought was interesting was here is Christie talking about how its onl $200 a month. $200 a month is a lot when you are unemployed?
Joe maximum benny is 600 per week. He is proposing to lower it to 550 a week
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2010, 07:21 PM
 
259 posts, read 662,371 times
Reputation: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorebaby View Post
Are you trying to argue that the unemployed contribute more to the economy than the employed and people who create jobs? No wonder you are upset by Christie's cost cutting measures.
are you trying to argue that the people that become unemployed havent already contributed to the economy? People that get unemployed arent limited to be being poor people.

Guess what, cut benefits to the unemployed and watch as the state's economy you know whats the bed. 200 a month is tens of millions of dollars when it comes to the states economy.

And companies leave NJ because of the corporate tax, not the unemployment tax. The insolvent unemployment fund has nothing to do with people collecting unemployment, it has to do with what the state politicians starting with Whitman did to the states unemployment fund.

Don't go pointing your fingers when you can't put the right facts togeather.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New Jersey

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:42 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top