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Old 05-19-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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You know what, enough with your rude comments. I've watched you over the years, and you usually resort to insulting comments when you have nothing better to write.

As the Obamanoids say, give him more time, as he's only getting started. Dealing with the education fiasco is a good first step. 11 billion dollar deficit is not a joke.
metal...you hit the nail on the head
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You know what, enough with your rude comments. I've watched you over the years, and you usually resort to insulting comments when you have nothing better to write.
You've watched me over the years? What is it with Jersey-haters that you're all a bunch of stalkers who obsess over people and places?

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As the Obamanoids say, give him more time, as he's only getting started. Dealing with the education fiasco is a good first step. 11 billion dollar deficit is not a joke.

So we should give him more time to say he's NOT "slashing spending" but you don't have to give him more time to say he's "slashing spending"???

Nice double standard right there. Typical neo-con talking out of both sides of his crooked mouth. Also typical of their mental capacity.

By ther way, the 11 million dollar deficit was brought to us by the Republicans - I don't think another Republican will undo what a previous Republican did. I'm sure we're in for more of the same. The fatso is cutting education but he's looking to spend more on other things, like roads.

You may go back to kissing Christie's huge fat ass now.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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Libertarian here. Happily living in NJ.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:08 PM
 
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You've watched me over the years? What is it with Jersey-haters that you're all a bunch of stalkers who obsess over people and places?




So we should give him more time to say he's NOT "slashing spending" but you don't have to give him more time to say he's "slashing spending"???

Nice double standard right there. Typical neo-con talking out of both sides of his crooked mouth. Also typical of their mental capacity.

By ther way, the 11 million dollar deficit was brought to us by the Republicans - I don't think another Republican will undo what a previous Republican did. I'm sure we're in for more of the same. The fatso is cutting education but he's looking to spend more on other things, like roads.

You may go back to kissing Christie's huge fat ass now.
I find it hard to believe there is anyone simple enough to really believe NJ's issues are caused by the Dems or Reps. Almost every single politician that has gone before has been (pick one or two) corrupt, greedy, stupid, a flat out liar, inept, power hungry, weak or some combo of all of them. Makes no difference which party they represent. Plain silly to try to make this an issue along party lines.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:29 PM
 
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It's NJ...people vote they way their union bosses intimidate, I mean tell them to.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:43 PM
 
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bababua,

What do you suggest Christie do to curtail the bloated deficit? Print dollars out of thin air like the Feds do?
Glad you asked. I am for big cuts in spending,continuing the luxury tax, and raising the gas tax.

I say all hand on deck if we want to solve the problem. I am for a salary freeze for all municipal and state employees who have not done so already. I feel the "rich" could deal with another year of the "luxury tax".

What I am against is cuts for cuts sake. I am not for cutting teachers that actually teach in classrooms, instead I am for cutting school employees that are not directly teaching. Take each district on its own merits and really meet the needs of the children and just not come with a big ax when honestly a scalpel is needed.

Some of you might not agree with me but this is what I suggest.

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Old 05-20-2010, 05:38 AM
 
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I am not for cutting teachers that actually teach in classrooms, instead I am for cutting school employees that are not directly teaching.
The average teacher's salary in NJ is $63,111. They only work 180 days a year. That's $350.62 a day or $43.75 an hour (provided they work a FULL 8 hours). Being that the NJ school day is only 6 hours, they make $58.44 an hour! They can afford a freeze AND cuts if necessary.
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:24 AM
 
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The average teacher's salary in NJ is $63,111. They only work 180 days a year. That's $350.62 a day or $43.75 an hour (provided they work a FULL 8 hours). Being that the NJ school day is only 6 hours, they make $58.44 an hour! They can afford a freeze AND cuts if necessary.

1. Most teachers have a masters and a few certifications. For 63,111 a year they a grossly underpaid compared to other professions with the same level of education

2. I'll gladly pay someone 58.44 a hour to give my kids a qualtiy education. Worth every penny to me .

3. I dont however like paying for three superintendent for 2 towns. Low paying teachers are not your enemy. Layers of redundant management are.
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:40 AM
 
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"that guy who met with truckers at GSP rest stops"

"As long as he continues to slash spending, I wouldn't care if he couldn't wear a seatbelt in a state trooper vehicle"

Reps to MetalJayBird for wit.
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:53 AM
 
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1. Most teachers have a masters and a few certifications. For 63,111 a year they a grossly underpaid compared to other professions with the same level of education
True, they're paid less than other professions with the same level of education, but they knew that going in. It's not like teachers suddenly got some massive pay cut and became low-paid civil servants- the story was always "yeah, the pay is lower, but the benefits and pension are great, and I get the summers off". When you factor in the low/minimal contributions to benefit program costs, the no/low copays/prescription costs, the pension funding programs, and the time off in the summer, the difference isn't as great as you think.

Most private sector employees have seen 15-20% increases in premiums, increased copays and deductibles, and lower/no employer contributions to retirements, while teachers have seen little to no change in their costs.

As I've said before- you couldn't pay me enough to sit in a classroom with 20 kids all day, but let's not make them out to be martyrs either.
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