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Old 05-20-2020, 08:53 PM
 
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Welcome to City Data: just an fyi: did you notice the poster posted the question 4 1/2 years ago? I am relatively sure he has made a decision as to where to live by now. And yes, your brief answer is correct.

For anyone who does want to know about Los Lunas, yes, they have sewers and paved streets.

For the person who mentioned NM was the 3rd place to retire in the country: studies and stats can always be taken with a grain of salt: when we decided to retire in NM, it was partially because of the high ratings as a good state for retiring. For us, this was not the case, but hardly would I think of it as one of the worst states either.
I was replying to the post dated 3/12/2020. That is just a little over 2 months ago. I'm not sure if they have already moved but there is a chance, during this pandemic, that they did not move. Thanks for looking out though
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I was replying to the post dated 3/12/2020. That is just a little over 2 months ago. I'm not sure if they have already moved but there is a chance, during this pandemic, that they did not move. Thanks for looking out though
I understand now, but it was a little hard to follow.
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Old 08-09-2020, 03:37 PM
 
Location: NM
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Since the thread is still relatively recent, I thought I would contribute a few thoughts on Los Lunas, in case anyone is interested...

My wife and I moved to LL last year. It is a small farming community in the Rio Grande valley about 25 miles south of Albuquerque. Due to its proximity to Albuquerque it has experienced a lot of growth as a bedroom suburb, so it has some exurb-type feel but also a lot of the old time small, slow-paced character.

I find it to be a nice community, nice people, low crime, quietly scenic, but predictably not much going on. A number of good Mexican restaurants, several chain restaurants, big box retailers. There is a lot of support for high school sports. Certainly Covid has impacted activity opportunities, so my limited experience is probably not fully representative of normal times.

The area consists of two cultural communities 1)the more suburban-like incorporated Los Lunas and 2) the rural agricultural areas made up of the communities of Peralta, Bosque Farms and unincorporated “Valencia”. The two areas are roughly separated by the Rio Grande. People are friendly and seem to get along well in spite of different lifestyles. Conservative politically, but not excessively so.

There are a lot of retired persons, especially retired vets who use the facilities at nearby Kirkland AFB. The LL community appears to be growing fairly rapidly with new houses being built in several areas. There is a large Facebook facility that employs several hundred and is being expanded now. Traffic can be a minor annoyance at times as there is only one Main Street through town and the traffic can back up at rush hour times. The city officials have been working for years to get funding for an additional exit off of I-25 to provide a parallel main street to relieve traffic and importantly another crossing over the Rio Grande. Funding was provided in the 2020 legislature. No telling if the current economic difficulties related to Corona virus will impact that funding. Overall the LL leadership seems to be proactive in dealing with major community issues. It definitely has a growth friendly approach.

One disappointment is there is no hospital in Valencia County, which includes the town of Belen. Hospitals in ABQ are close enough, I suppose - 25-35 miles. There are several doctors and dentists, but few specialists.

I don’t know directly about schools, but I understand they are overall higher rated than Albuquerque Public Schools, but I believe that is a rather low bar... school facilities are excellent, I do know that.

Weather and climate are very similar to Albuquerque. Couple of degrees warmer during the day, winter and summer. The Manzano Mountains make for a scenic backdrop, but unfortunately are not accessible from LL. Have to travel around ABQ to the north, or Mountainair to the south to get to campgrounds and hiking trails on the eastern slope of the mountains.

Overall LL is nice place to live if you are happy with a slow pace and friendly people - which I am!
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Old 08-09-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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Since the thread is still relatively recent, I thought I would contribute a few thoughts on Los Lunas, in case anyone is interested...

My wife and I moved to LL last year. It is a small farming community in the Rio Grande valley about 25 miles south of Albuquerque. Due to its proximity to Albuquerque it has experienced a lot of growth as a bedroom suburb, so it has some exurb-type feel but also a lot of the old time small, slow-paced character.

I find it to be a nice community, nice people, low crime, quietly scenic, but predictably not much going on. A number of good Mexican restaurants, several chain restaurants, big box retailers. There is a lot of support for high school sports. Certainly Covid has impacted activity opportunities, so my limited experience is probably not fully representative of normal times.

The area consists of two cultural communities 1)the more suburban-like incorporated Los Lunas and 2) the rural agricultural areas made up of the communities of Peralta, Bosque Farms and unincorporated “Valencia”. The two areas are roughly separated by the Rio Grande. People are friendly and seem to get along well in spite of different lifestyles. Conservative politically, but not excessively so.

There are a lot of retired persons, especially retired vets who use the facilities at nearby Kirkland AFB. The LL community appears to be growing fairly rapidly with new houses being built in several areas. There is a large Facebook facility that employs several hundred and is being expanded now. Traffic can be a minor annoyance at times as there is only one Main Street through town and the traffic can back up at rush hour times. The city officials have been working for years to get funding for an additional exit off of I-25 to provide a parallel main street to relieve traffic and importantly another crossing over the Rio Grande. Funding was provided in the 2020 legislature. No telling if the current economic difficulties related to Corona virus will impact that funding. Overall the LL leadership seems to be proactive in dealing with major community issues. It definitely has a growth friendly approach.

One disappointment is there is no hospital in Valencia County, which includes the town of Belen. Hospitals in ABQ are close enough, I suppose - 25-35 miles. There are several doctors and dentists, but few specialists.

I don’t know directly about schools, but I understand they are overall higher rated than Albuquerque Public Schools, but I believe that is a rather low bar... school facilities are excellent, I do know that.

Weather and climate are very similar to Albuquerque. Couple of degrees warmer during the day, winter and summer. The Manzano Mountains make for a scenic backdrop, but unfortunately are not accessible from LL. Have to travel around ABQ to the north, or Mountainair to the south to get to campgrounds and hiking trails on the eastern slope of the mountains.

Overall LL is nice place to live if you are happy with a slow pace and friendly people - which I am!
I am interested in your observation, as a resident that crime in Los Lunas is low. I have heard just the opposite: the crime rate is 56 times higher than the national average is what I read in the Albuquerque Journal in an article about 4-5 years ago. Perhaps something has changed. I do remember being at a Walgreens in Belen about 3 years ago, and I wanted to buy an 8 dollar phone charger for my car. It was locked onto the hanging on the wall holding them and I had to get a clerk to unlock it and she brought it to the register to be paid for. I have to say living in Las Cruces I have never seen anything like that.
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Old 08-09-2020, 11:41 PM
 
Location: NM
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Yes, I’ve read several statistics showing LL with very high crime rates.

I don’t have any direct or official knowledge about the stats, but I do have a few theories after talking with folks and living here for a year.
First, understand that “statistical Los Lunas” is different than the actual incorporated city (technically classed a ‘village’) of LL. The 87031 zip code covers a ton of unincorporated communities in the immediate area as well as LL, and that zip code is what is used for statistical reporting. So “living in Los Lunas” is not the same as “living in 87031”.
Second, there are a lot of very poor communities in 87031. I understand that at least some of those communities have sky high crime rates - especially related to theft. I suspect those areas greatly increase the crime stats for 87031. I further suspect The high theft rate hits the retail sector in the area pretty hard. That type of crime in retail is not something I would directly see, though no doubt I pay for it as we all do. Certainly the theft rate is high in 87031 and LL directly, but not so much that I’m afraid of it.

Third, the violent crime rates for murder and rape are practically zero here. “Assault” is very high however. I understand ( again from discussions with people) that much of the assault occurs among acquaintances and extended family members. So, again, not something I directly see or experience.

I do know that I feel very safe in my neighborhood and almost anywhere I go during the day. There are definitely spots I would not feel comfortable in at night. Also, in the more rural parts of 87031, I would feel very much more vulnerable to theft or even break-ins than I do in my “sheltered” part of the city.

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-14-2020, 06:48 AM
 
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I have an idea of why there is a higher crime rate in NM in these type of localities. First off, the population density is low which translates to the police presence is low and the response time for the police is low and extra eyes of neighbors is low too. Those are all magnates for thieves, that green light that they won't get caught. So some nice looking piece of property with an inexpensive home in a semi-rural or completely rural setting in NM looks so appealing, peaceful and serene, and is a good deal, until.....until you look at that lack of police presence, the lack of privacy such as trees to hide whether you are home or not, which also reveals the vulnerability of any piece of property windows,doors etc, and couple that with so many homes in NM don't have garages which also reveals whether you are currently home or not (usually).
Put all that together and there's the perfect case the joint for thieves. It's just too easy for them.

How can you counter-balance all that? I suppose a lot of cameras. Lots of warning signs. Dogs if you're into dogs. Fences help but they're no guarantee. Bars on windows, yuck.
I'm sure those of you that live in rural NM know far more tricks than those listed. It's got to be a never-ending challenge though.
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Old 08-16-2020, 08:13 PM
 
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Sadly, I don’t think that Los Lunas, like many places in NM, can make my attractive AND livable retirement spot short list. Sinkholes practically everywhere says the USGS, numerous TV newcasts about huge crime rates in most communities (e.g. Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Belen, Sircorro, Las Crucas, Framington, Gallup,Deming, Ruidoso, et al) and the substandard public school education that contributes to it and repels quality job growth, adequate police presence and its failure to stamp out the drug trade, proximity to quality goods and services at least comparable with those in Las Cruces, sinkholes threats everywhere says the USGS and little opportunities for state matching funds to build flood water control and water recapture systems infrastructure are major concerns.

Places with only one hospital and dental group, and those >> 20 miles away is hardly a good thing for retirees. Plus, I totally live for my $$$$ home theater and don’t need to have it lifted while I’m out food shopping to feed some degenerate’s drug habit. Sure, I can wire the house with wifi video monitoring, but what if I miss the alarm on iPhone, or I don’t but the few cops on the payroll don’t arrive soon enough? Bars on the windows? Yuck, but I would do so if Los Lunas and practically everywhere else in NM didn’t have these other problems.

I thoroughly despise highly populated environments for all kinds of reasons; being from NY I'm all too experienced on that score. But NM, with under 1/9 NY's population, simply hasn't the tax base to provide anywhere near comparable basic public services-and its consequent problems repels growth of the most important private ones. Terrible shame about this Land of Enchantment. Really heart breaking as I’m not exactly thrilled about having to re-consider other western states though which have almost none of these problems, at least not to this degree. I got about 3 years before I have to decide where to retire to and buy land to build my “dream” home. How likely could things adequately improve by then?
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Old 08-23-2020, 12:17 AM
 
Location: NM
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New Mexico has plenty of problems, for sure. And there have been a few sink holes, but they are way down on the list of concerns...

With all our issues, you might be better off staying in NY.
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Old 08-23-2020, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I am interested in your observation, as a resident that crime in Los Lunas is low. I have heard just the opposite: the crime rate is 56 times higher than the national average is what I read in the Albuquerque Journal in an article about 4-5 years ago. Perhaps something has changed. I do remember being at a Walgreens in Belen about 3 years ago, and I wanted to buy an 8 dollar phone charger for my car. It was locked onto the hanging on the wall holding them and I had to get a clerk to unlock it and she brought it to the register to be paid for. I have to say living in Las Cruces I have never seen anything like that.
All I can say and I admit I have been gone for several years, as for the crime rate: LL is certainly better than say, Belin, but that is nothing to brag about. The crime rate throughout the entire area is relatively high. It is nothing like ABQ but still higher than the national average.
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Old 08-23-2020, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Sadly, I don’t think that Los Lunas, like many places in NM, can make my attractive AND livable retirement spot short list. Sinkholes practically everywhere says the USGS, numerous TV newcasts about huge crime rates in most communities (e.g. Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Belen, Sircorro, Las Crucas, Framington, Gallup,Deming, Ruidoso, et al) and the substandard public school education that contributes to it and repels quality job growth, adequate police presence and its failure to stamp out the drug trade, proximity to quality goods and services at least comparable with those in Las Cruces, sinkholes threats everywhere says the USGS and little opportunities for state matching funds to build flood water control and water recapture systems infrastructure are major concerns.

Places with only one hospital and dental group, and those >> 20 miles away is hardly a good thing for retirees. Plus, I totally live for my $$$$ home theater and don’t need to have it lifted while I’m out food shopping to feed some degenerate’s drug habit. Sure, I can wire the house with wifi video monitoring, but what if I miss the alarm on iPhone, or I don’t but the few cops on the payroll don’t arrive soon enough? Bars on the windows? Yuck, but I would do so if Los Lunas and practically everywhere else in NM didn’t have these other problems.

I thoroughly despise highly populated environments for all kinds of reasons; being from NY I'm all too experienced on that score. But NM, with under 1/9 NY's population, simply hasn't the tax base to provide anywhere near comparable basic public services-and its consequent problems repels growth of the most important private ones. Terrible shame about this Land of Enchantment. Really heart breaking as I’m not exactly thrilled about having to re-consider other western states though which have almost none of these problems, at least not to this degree. I got about 3 years before I have to decide where to retire to and buy land to build my “dream” home. How likely could things adequately improve by then?
I have to take exception to some of your comments: 1-there are not a lot of sinkholes unless things have a lot since we lived there: well we lived in Belen, but still the same general area: There certainly were more than 1 dental clinic in the area and the police departments are very good. Most of what else you are saying or reading are pretty right on. Oh, the schools in LL are not bad at all, just not top rated. The lack of decent medical facilities even in ABQ is a real concern. Of course this often happens when one lives in a rural state which is what NM is.
There are hundreds of seniors living in the LL area with lots of activities for them, but certainly it isn't an area for everyone. One of the reasons we left was it didn't fit our needs and I have a hunch it would not fit yours'.
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