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My real was driving on the main drag from the dog park out east through downtown by Trader Joe's et cetera, and on out to the I-25. Very congested. That was 3 years ago (not 2 like I first posted)... A lot different then, like Ruth4Truth wrote above.
I was thinking of the Pacific Northwest islands. Or Port Washington or Sequim like Ruth said.
Pacific NW was my thought as well. Temperatures are mild. Of course the area is know for cloudy/rainy weather, but there's some considerable variation in rainfall amounts, around the Seattle area and north from there.
I haven't been to the area in many years, so my firsthand knowledge is out of date. There are some good discussions on the Washington forum, though.
Anyplace the OP would consider is pricey, because they are artsy liberal areas... Eugene, Ashland, etc. If I ever moved back to Oregon (which I won't because I don't like the higher number parallels) I would move to Grants Pass even though it is more conservative than I am. I love the Rogue River and the general area. Nice and beautiful little town.
My real was driving on the main drag from the dog park out east through downtown by Trader Joe's et cetera, and on out to the I-25. Very congested. That was 3 years ago (not 2 like I first posted)... A lot different then, like Ruth4Truth wrote above.
Yes. While Santa Fe has never reached LA bumper-to-bumper-ness, it's gotten close during commute hours. And much to my surprise, it had become congested even during non-commute hours on several main drags. This is what happens, when you increase urban density without having the option to widen roads. The city outgrows its streets pretty fast. And REIT's have been building new apartment complexes, and buying up existing ones, as water becomes more scarce by the year.
This happened to Seattle in the 90's, after the city decided to preserve open space outside the city by increasing density within the city limits. They did not add light or heavy rail, or widen any streets/freeways/arterials, because there was no more room to do so. And now, 30 years later, the situation became intolerable. Then Covid happened, and it lightened up a little. But just a little.
Anyplace the OP would consider is pricey, because they are artsy liberal areas... Eugene, Ashland, etc. If I ever moved back to Oregon (which I won't because I don't like the higher number parallels) I would move to Grants Pass even though it is more conservative than I am. I love the Rogue River and the general area. Nice and beautiful little town.
Grants Pass is beautiful! But it's in a high-risk fire zone. Driving through there, you can see all the dead evergreens along the highway. If the Forest Service and National Parks Service hadn't had their budgets slashed under Presidents intent on giving more tax breaks to people who don't need them, they'd have a halfway decent budget, that could allow for removal of that standing tinder in the forests throughout the area.
That's so sad. I know that Talent burned down last year (or was it the year before?). That area does get really hot in the summertime, especially Medford. It's really kind of an extension of Northern California.
Taxes are the price we pay for civilization. A lot of people think "someone else" should pay. Just who is that someone else, instead of everyone? And a lot of people don't value nature or the dangers Mother Nature poses. That will change as Mother Nature becomes more and more chaotic and ferocious, and by then it will be too late.
I haven't seen any replies from the OP in a while, but did anyone mention the Silver City area? That might fit the bill in terms of climate and artsy, and I believe should still be fairly inexpensive.
I would add Lincoln or Otero counties too but they definitely aren't even remotely liberal or left leaning, although I personally would welcome more left leaning people move into the area. Somewhere like Alamogordo is still very inexpensive and only a 20 minute drive from the mountains and forests.
I've heard Silver City is nice. It probably is cooler because of the mountainous area. Truth or Consequences is an artsy little town but it gets too hot there I'm sure. Bisbee, Arizona would be another interesting place.
I do think the OP wants to be near the ocean though. I do hope she comes back and updates us on her final decision.
My fault with Santa Fe traffic is not the volume or congestion but the drivers. It isn’t a grid or a rational street pattern and many drivers are from back east or west coast and used to aggressive driving. When the light turns green, they floor it even if they are the third car in the line. That’s how I met the guy from New Jersey who plowed into my rear bumper. He assured me no damage was done without getting out of his car so I guess it was okay.
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