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Beckybee,
I'm not sure what your age is but you do sound young. I have lived in a lot of places and basically, people are people but with different cultures, mentalities, etc. There will probably always be something you don't like about a town or city or a person and if you don't like the situation you are in, only you can change it. There will always be trashy people. I'm sure California is not without them.
As far as the "idiots" you are coming across, welcome to the real world. I came across someone the other day that when I mentioned New Mexico, she thought and for some reason could not understand that I was talking about New Mexico in the United States, not Mexico. I do have a deer in the headlights look when I run across people like that but I grin and bear it and it gives me something to laugh about later.
Anyway, if I were you and your husband, I would transfer to Phoenix or someplace where you can be happy. Life's to short for chaos and complications. Good Luck.
Well, I did have to move because of my husband. It was either Farmington or Phoenix. I was 5 months pregnant at the time and it was the beginning of summer...where would you pick? I was born and raised in California. I am used to dark green lawns, big trees (that don't look like over grown weeds), lakes, mountains, outdoors as well as cultural entertainment such as dance, arts (LA area Getty Museum...not Navajo rugs, which are beatiful, but not Rembrandt and VanGogh), the ocean, Disneyland, 6 Flags, etc. etc. Overall, just more variety packed into one state. I love CA for the diversity and geography. But that said, I really think Farmington has the potential to be beautiful. Arizona has much of the same landscape but the people there (for the most part) take car of what they have. On the other hand people here, in my opinion, wreck the beautiful landscape with their trailers, trash, broken appliances, peeling paint, beer cans, and businesses in the middle of neighborhoods. As for moving away from here...I'm picking the next place we move to and it's definitely going to be back east! I'm completely thrilled!
And even though the desert is not my style, that is not why I would choose to not live in the SW. The desert can be beautiful. It's the people and their garbage that digusts me. The lack of city planning. The lack of education. People here don't know who Shakespeare is!!! Whenever I ask someone a simple question I get the deer in the headlights look! For example, I was looking for a Shakespeare movie and the girl behind the counter was like "Uhh...is that a porno?" And a girl at Starbucks didn't know what Irish Creme is! She works in a coffee shop! If this area had better schools, didn't have the drug problem, didn't have several porn superstores, didn't have so many semitrucks going through downtown, didn't have trash everywhere....then this place would be pretty nice! Now do you understand why I'm running for my life!? I just hope people scope out Farmington really well before purchasing a home because people here do not take of their property and don't care if a qwik-e-mart goes up next door! Someone has got to do SOMETHING about this area. Unless, of course, people actually like it that way, well then, have fun!
some of what you say about NM is true. The lifestyle is very different. I too, was raised in Calif but left many years ago like most of my family. NM is very poor and many of the people are not terribly educated. You will see trash places you prefer not to see it. These are my complaints as well. As for the land of enchantment: NM is beautiful and yes, enchanting. No place has sun rises and sun set like we do, the desert has its own beauty, but you are so close to Colorado you don't get quite as much of the desert beauty. You talk about porn shops and drugs. OMG, what part of Ca did you come from or were your eyes closed all the years you were growning up? What about grafeti, (spelling) illegals, earthquakes, fires, gangs, liberals coming out of the walls, high cost of everything, crime, do I have to continue? Why are more people leaving Ca every year than moving in? Why is San Francisco having servious finanual problems? I beleive you are very young, very niave and maybe a bit spoiled. Get over it, learn to adjust, love your husband and baby and stop the whining. Have you thought about joining some organizations, getting involved with your political party or your church? i don't mean to come across so hard and as I said, some of your complaints are legit, but most are over dramatizing.
Well, I did have to move because of my husband. It was either Farmington or Phoenix. I was 5 months pregnant at the time and it was the beginning of summer...where would you pick? I was born and raised in California. I am used to dark green lawns, big trees (that don't look like over grown weeds), lakes, mountains, outdoors as well as cultural entertainment such as dance, arts (LA area Getty Museum...not Navajo rugs, which are beatiful, but not Rembrandt and VanGogh), the ocean, Disneyland, 6 Flags, etc. etc. Overall, just more variety packed into one state. I love CA for the diversity and geography. But that said, I really think Farmington has the potential to be beautiful. Arizona has much of the same landscape but the people there (for the most part) take car of what they have. On the other hand people here, in my opinion, wreck the beautiful landscape with their trailers, trash, broken appliances, peeling paint, beer cans, and businesses in the middle of neighborhoods. As for moving away from here...I'm picking the next place we move to and it's definitely going to be back east! I'm completely thrilled! BTW, Mexican Food in NM is as good as anywhere if not better and we have lived all over Calif and Texas. What about it do you not like and what is different? ccreal
And even though the desert is not my style, that is not why I would choose to not live in the SW. The desert can be beautiful. It's the people and their garbage that digusts me. The lack of city planning. The lack of education. People here don't know who Shakespeare is!!! Whenever I ask someone a simple question I get the deer in the headlights look! For example, I was looking for a Shakespeare movie and the girl behind the counter was like "Uhh...is that a porno?" And a girl at Starbucks didn't know what Irish Creme is! She works in a coffee shop! If this area had better schools, didn't have the drug problem, didn't have several porn superstores, didn't have so many semitrucks going through downtown, didn't have trash everywhere....then this place would be pretty nice! Now do you understand why I'm running for my life!? I just hope people scope out Farmington really well before purchasing a home because people here do not take of their property and don't care if a qwik-e-mart goes up next door! Someone has got to do SOMETHING about this area. Unless, of course, people actually like it that way, well then, have fun!
now that I read more of your statements, not only are you a bit young you may be a bit of a snob as well. Lots of people who are very bright and educated beleive it or not, don't know who Shakespeare is or don't care. Enjoy the east. Does your husband know you are choosing where to live? What about his schooling or job, will you handle that as well?
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I have learn first hand how some Americans ( not all) feel about this Island and it hurts.
I am so sorry about your experiences with the attitudes of Americans. We can be such a snobbish bunch at times, with our heads up in the clouds acting all superior to the rest of the world. But PLEASE don't think we're all like that. You sound like a really wonderful person - genuine and real. Part of what makes so many Americans stuck-up and fake sometimes is that we are spoiled and take everything for granted. That's our own folly, and I pray that God will have mercy on us in letting us come to truly recognize our blessings, so that we can be genuinely caring and good people in the eyes of the rest of the world. I know there are some of us like that. I just wish we were in the majority.
WCRob, Hello, .
I know with certainty that not all Americans are snobbish, only a few, and we got those too were I'm from .
I have two american kids because that its what they choose to be, one of them my only female choose the Air Force Academy even thought she got offers for great universities because she wanted to serve her country, not because she had too.
I have learn a long time a go that words can only hurt you if you allow them to do so. I actually hurt more for my friends on these Island, they are great people.
I went to collage in the USA and meet the most fun and greatest people ( I marry one of them and my parents call him "Diploma" because it was the reason I went to the USA and instead on my third year............I got him ) and I have also made great americans and none americans friends in all over the countries we have been.
I was just trying to explain to BeekyBee that because we are humans and not perfect (thank God for that) if we have 30 americans saying we love your Island and one saying this place its a pit and I hate it, we tend to remember the bad comment and forget the good ones, I can only guess its our nature, .
I just wish sometimes that I could take all the Americans to some of the countries I have been........just to show all how great USA is.
Yes it has high crime and drug problems, but it also have a court and law system, it may not work great some times but at least you got one.
Of all the places I have been...........USA has THE BEST COSTUMER assistance. The government works great if you ask any european. For example, an Spanier or Portuguese, to get their Identification card renew (we do not used the driver licenses for ID )they have to go to the Police department, wait in line to take a number (as if you were on the Deli) and then wait in line again until they call your number (usually no less than 5 hours), then you wait 4 weeks for your ID.
To get our drivers licenses we have to take a classes for 6 months on the agencies car, not on yours or a borrow car, it cost you an average of One Thousand dollar ( we have to pay for these classes) if you past both the rhetorical and the drive test the first time, you pay more if you have to retest. On the actual test you have to change a tire, change the oil and the spark plugs and park parallel. Its just part of it.
When I got my driving license in the USA for the first time I was in and out in an hour and it cost me 10$, I was in such a shock that I keep asking if it was legal. Argggg
That its only for government. On the civilian, I once need it a paper notarize and I went to a bank in San Antonio texas (I just got there) and they told me to wait, I waited one minute, the lady notarize my paper and I asked her, how much I own you?, when she told me the services were free because I just open an account I almost fainted!
At home, we have to pay a minimum of 50 Euros (About 70 dollars) for any notarize paper and they are not at the banks, they have their own place.
Things like those above its what I want American people to know. I want then to know that even on the so call " civilize countries" (not third world countries) things are not as good as in the USA.
To be honest WCRob I can not name a country I hate, there its has not been one culture better than another. Sure I like some more than others, but all have their unique culture, costumes and people, and they ALL have bad people and good people, on that they are all alike, , including mine.
Take care
Well, I do hope Beckybee will find happiness back east. I think though she will just find more of what she left and then be unhappy there. I know Farmington has its good and bad but I think it is mostly good. There are rednecks and roughnecks in the area, it is an oil city, so you are going to have that here. Goodness, I dont expect all the roughnecks and rednecks to be prime and proper. It doesnt go with their dirty hardworking necks! I do agree that NM is a poor state, but that is just the way it is, but it is changing. I see true progress over the last ten years from the crackdown from the State Patrol on drunk driving to better codes and city planning. It just takes time. About the California thing, been there and done that and I honestly dont see what they see out there. Horrid traffic, fires, earthquakes, Santa Ana winds, crime, hardcore gangs, not gang bangers wannabees like mostly we have in NM, and so forth. And porn...CA is the porn king state, so I definitely have to chuckle on that one!
Here is why I love the Farmington area: http://www.farmingtonnm.org/index.shtml http://www.villageprofile.com/newmex...ield/main.html
http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/staff/scholle/graphics/tourist/Shiprock.jpg (broken link)
http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/staff%20/scholle/graphics/tourist/shiprock2.html (broken link) http://www.radekaphotography.com/ima...Badlands-L.jpg http://www.kenrockwell.com/200210/images/1706Chef.jpg http://www.ratebeer.com/BrewerImages/3465.jpg
http://www.leeandkristin.net/NewMexico/Acoma/index.html (broken link) http://www.angier-fox.com/images/sw-...o-pix/8272.jpg
Salmon Pueblo ancient ruins near Bloomfield http://www.cdarc.org/images/asw20_3_cover.jpg
San Juan College
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Farmington Library
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A typical new home in Farmington
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Farmington looking toward the La Plata Mountains
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Downtown Farmington
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I think that Beckiebee22 has the right to express her personal opinion about Farmington, unfortunately she touched sensibilities. She does'n like it and she is leaving, that's the right thing to do and good for her. I bet that there are other people that probably share her impressions but are afraid to admit it in public. On the other hand, I see a thread in this Forum very positive about Farmington, like many things in life it's a matter of personal opinion and individual taste, to each its own. Before I decided to move to Las Cruces, I accepted the shortcomings that I will have to face after having lived in wonderful Chicago for many decades. Everything in life is trade off and nothing comes close to "perfect". What I will lose in cultural life, I will gain in weather, slower pace, lighter traffic and beautiful landscapes. These are things that in the present stage of my life have become important to me, perhaps they wouldn't have attracted me when I was young and when my career was the most important thing in my life.
I figure most folks can live anywhere and be fairly content if they bother to make the best of what they have. Hey, Farmington may have its problems but so does everywhere else. We live in an upscale surburban community in New Hampshire and I have seen kids selling dope to each other around here. So what?
I'm on this forum because our aging bones do not like, and keep us informed of it, the cold and damp. Maybe cash out and move completely of try snowbirding if we can afford it.
Actually what I want to do is get dropped on a couple or few acres of land some where near Socorro and order a few thousand abobe blocks. A house kit - some assembly required. Maybe it will happen, maybe it won't.
I have a few words of advice for Beckybee... there is no Utopia and the grass is always greener...If you only only see the faults you will never seethe beauty.
Move on to another place and hopefully you'll find happienss, but you also may look back in a few years and remember the beautiful land you left.
I don't live here. But I have been to NM many times. (I went to Texas Tech...Ruisdoso was a favorite midnight run for a day of skiing!!) It is truely beautiful. I have lived ALL over the US and lived in Europe as well. Some places I couldn't wait to leave....Lubbock TX was one (now I wistfully look at photos and say wow what a great place!) There are POSTIVES to everyplace and NEGATIVES to everyplace. Seatlle WA people LOVE it never want to leave...I was very depressed there, it's beautiful and when the sun shines and you see MT Rainer looming in the distance...BREATHTAKING! But I won't move back, it wasn't for me. But i don't look back with disgust I am glad I got to expirence it.
I now live..Back EAST and am tring to to move BACK WEST! YOu find the same thing you hate about farmington here! But instead of Desert you'll have waist high weeds...rusted out cars...illegals yep got em, gangs, yep got em, drugs, yep got those too...drunks yep! People who don't know Willie S? definately...loads can't speak english very well. Irish creme...well since THAT is A LIQUORE...I doubt my starbucks girl will have it either!
So...move back here..but do your research and broaden your horizons...or you will be just as miserable out here as you are there.
GOOD luck and never judge a bushel based on one rotten bite.
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