When is the New Orleans population coming back? (Lafitte: tax credit, price)

[NativeSon504]

Originally Posted by SLIMMACKEY

I saw slowly but surely NativeSon504; because I plan on moving back myself permanently a lil later in life when I slow down with working. As far as the economy, I'm also cautiously optimistic. But from what I can see on my monthly visits, not fast enough. I look at the East and just see beaucoup opportunity. The East is a prime example of the cities untapped potential. Single family homes, space for large retail, you know that suburban feel within REAL proximity to the rest of the city. Hell, the East is the city despite what anybody says. But development is at slower than a snails pace. The plaza has always been in limbo due to the slumlord owner. Once Mervyn's, Maison Blanche and Sears dipped out, that really murdered a lot of other really good retail that may have come there. But I stand firm on my belief that the East is untapped potential. The rest of the Eastbank needs some organic growth as well. The city is still not entrepreneurial friendly as it should be. That has always been a problem. I mean I see some lil bars and stuff opening like the one up the block from Gene's on St. Claude, but nothing around it. And maybe their target market isnt far outreaching. The really big issue is that the businesses/store fronts that closed down due to the storm; most of them never re-opened. Its a lotta work to do Son. A lot and the status quo has not changed a lot. I found it hard to move around when I started back investing after the storm. Dude there is still some foolishness being played.....

Yeah, I defintely feel ya. There is alot of untapped potential in the city for sure and there's also still alot of red tape to go through to get things done too. You're right there's still a lot of work to get done but I'll give the city some credit they've made some significant strides, just not at the accelerated pace some of us would like.

[RogersParkGuy]

Originally Posted by imaterry78259

When will New Orleans population come back, I would think the metro area would be at least close to 2 million by now

They're not.

The powers that be in New Orleans have made it pretty clear that they would like to that city to remain smaller, whiter and wealthier than it was in the past. Katrina basically put gentrification on steroids.

[sconley9922]

Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy

They're not.

The powers that be in New Orleans have made it pretty clear that they would like to that city to remain smaller, whiter and wealthier than it was in the past. Katrina basically put gentrification on steroids.

You're COMPLETELY wrong. They're constantly building new places to live because of the influx of new residents. This city has a mixture of all different races so why would, (or could they even), they tell a person they can't live here. A lot of the gentrifiers that have moved here arent necessarily wealthy...a lot are white tho. The population is growing...fact.

[RogersParkGuy]

Originally Posted by sconley9922

You're COMPLETELY wrong. They're constantly building new places to live because of the influx of new residents. This city has a mixture of all different races so why would, or could they even, they tell a person they can't live here. A lot of the gentrifiers that have moved here arent necessarily wealthy...a lot are white tho. The population is growing...fact.

You're missing my point entirely.

Yes, new people are moving in. But most of the poor, black residents who left in the wake of Katrina are not coming back, and the powers that be don't want them back. No, they cannot explicitly forbid people from moving there. But they can, and are, planning redevelopment in such a way that most new residents will likely be white and at least middle class. They don't want more poor black people in New Orleans, and they are taking steps to make sure they stay away.

[sconley9922]

Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy

You're missing my point entirely.

Yes, new people are moving in. But most of the poor, black residents who left in the wake of Katrina are not coming back, and the powers that be don't want them back. No, they cannot explicitly forbid people from moving there. But they can, and are, planning redevelopment in such a way that most new residents will likely be white and at least middle class. They don't want more poor black people in New Orleans, and they are taking steps to make sure they stay away.

I agree with some of that but what you initially responded to was, is new orleans' population gonna come back and you said its not...the gentrification that is happening here is replacing, and will surpass the people who aren't here anymore ...which will make the population grow bigger than it was

[RogersParkGuy]

Originally Posted by sconley9922

I agree with some of that but what you initially responded to was new orleans' population gonna come back and you said its not...the gentrification that is happening here is replacing, and will surpass the people who aren't here anymore ...which will make the population grow bigger than it was

Maybe I misunderstood.

I thought by "coming back," you meant to ask when were displaced people returning. Apparently, you meant when would New Orleans' population return to pre-Katrina levels,

[NativeSon504]

Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy

You're missing my point entirely.

Yes, new people are moving in. But most of the poor, black residents who left in the wake of Katrina are not coming back, and the powers that be don't want them back. No, they cannot explicitly forbid people from moving there. But they can, and are, planning redevelopment in such a way that most new residents will likely be white and at least middle class. They don't want more poor black people in New Orleans, and they are taking steps to make sure they stay away.

Some of what you are saying is correct but remember Orleans Parish is still 61% African American it was 70% African American before Katrina. So what your saying is that 61% will decrease even more in Orleans parish?

[RogersParkGuy]

Originally Posted by NativeSon504

Some of what you are saying is correct but remember Orleans Parish is still 61% African American it was 70% African American before Katrina. So what your saying is that 61% will decrease even more in Orleans parish?

I don't know for sure how it will all play out in the end. But I do believe many powerful people in Orleans Parish would like to see such a decrease.

[WiseManOnceSaid]

Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy

They're not.

The powers that be in New Orleans have made it pretty clear that they would like to that city to remain smaller, whiter and wealthier than it was in the past. Katrina basically put gentrification on steroids.

Last time I watched the news about NOLA old Mayor Nagin was wanting it to be a "chocolate town"? What's happened to this philosophy and how has this changed since Katrina?

[cBach]

Originally Posted by WiseManOnceSaid

Last time I watched the news about NOLA old Mayor Nagin was wanting it to be a "chocolate town"? What's happened to this philosophy and how has this changed since Katrina?

Landrieu is the new mayor, things have changed since 10 years ago!