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Old 03-02-2014, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Denver
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LOL what a joke of a list. New Orleans not on it is hilarious. I like living in NO but give me a break. It's still among the worst cities in the WORLD for murders. Let's not let our enjoyment of what NO has to offer blind us to the reality of the insane murder rate in the city.

York, PA more dangerous than New Orleans? LOLOLOLOLOL. That should tell you how horrible that list is.

Minneapolis? I can't breathe from laughter.
Murder is just one crime out of hundreds of others.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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LOL what a joke of a list. New Orleans not on it is hilarious. I like living in NO but give me a break. It's still among the worst cities in the WORLD for murders. Let's not let our enjoyment of what NO has to offer blind us to the reality of the insane murder rate in the city.

York, PA more dangerous than New Orleans? LOLOLOLOLOL. That should tell you how horrible that list is.

Minneapolis? I can't breathe from laughter.

It's a OVERALL CRIME list NOT a number of MURDERS list.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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LOL what a joke of a list. New Orleans not on it is hilarious. I like living in NO but give me a break. It's still among the worst cities in the WORLD for murders. Let's not let our enjoyment of what NO has to offer blind us to the reality of the insane murder rate in the city.
But you yourself, in a different thread, displayed an understanding of how exclusive this is to certain areas and thus isn't a widespread issue. If you're as objective as you claim you would notice that the murder rate is plummeting. Oh and the list is about overall crime rate...not just murder.

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The crime and poverty are avoidable. Honestly, I have never run into it. Yes, it is never that far from you in NO - and the city is one of the leading murder cities int he world - but you just don't run into in the city unless you live in one of the poor areas. A city like Newark or Camden feels unsafe everywhere. But NO isn't like that. Uptown, Warehouse District, the Quarter, Marigny, Bywater, all are nothing like the crime-ridden parts of the city. If you stay out of NO East, the Seventh Ward, Central City, Holly Grove, Gert Town, and parts of LGD, then you're totally fine. This isn't a city of random crime.

NO is a really fun city. More festivals and things to do than you can ever hope to do. A vibe like no other city. Honestly, NYC, where I used to live, feels like a lame party compared to NO. They just know how to live it up here.
^^^your own statement from the thread I referenced.
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Old 03-03-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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As for New Orleans....Hurricane Katrina helped a lot.
Yes, I'm afraid those percentage drops in New Orleans became percentage spikes where they relocated.

They're still doin what they do.
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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But you yourself, in a different thread, displayed an understanding of how exclusive this is to certain areas and thus isn't a widespread issue. If you're as objective as you claim you would notice that the murder rate is plummeting. Oh and the list is about overall crime rate...not just murder.



^^^your own statement from the thread I referenced.
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Yes, NO "feels" safer and the crime is "more" avoidable THAN most of the WORST cities for crime (e.g., Newark, Detroit, etc., not York, PA). That doesn't mean NO doesn't have a prominent place on a list for crime-ridden cities. For Christ's sake, it has a murder rate of FORTY-PLUS per 100,000. That puts it in the stratosphere of cities, WORLDWIDE, with high murder rates.

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So what if Orlando has more fistfights. Murder is a whole 'nother level of crime. Treating the two as equals on a list is beyond mod cut

Have you been to York, PA? How about Minneapolis? Go there, take pictures, walk around night, do the whole thing - and then come back here and report to us. Those cities are like Disneyland compared to NO.

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Old 03-03-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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It's a OVERALL CRIME list NOT a number of MURDERS list.
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Let me break it down for you:

1. Treating battery and murder as equal crimes on a list is beyond stupid. Where would you rather live, somewhere with a batter rate of 42/100,000 or somewhere with a murder rate of 42/100,000. Which is more "dangerous?" If you say the former, then you need to get your head checked.

2. Murder numbers are hard for police departments to fudge because you have a dead person. Battery and so on are not, which means a city can under-report those crimes.

Sign of the crazy boosterism in this forum: turn off your critical thinking skills and brain when something is remotely positive about NO. But go into Sherlock Holmes, full debate mode when something says something negative about this city.

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Old 03-03-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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Yes, NO "feels" safer and the crime is "more" avoidable THAN most of the WORST cities for crime (e.g., Newark, Detroit, etc., not York, PA). That doesn't mean NO doesn't have a prominent place on a list for crime-ridden cities. For Christ's sake, it has a murder rate of FORTY-PLUS per 100,000. That puts it in the stratosphere of cities, WORLDWIDE, with high murder rates.

I mean, the boosterism is just insane in this forum.

So what if Orlando has more fistfights. Murder is a whole 'nother level of crime. Treating the two as equals on a list is beyond retarded.

Have you been to York, PA? How about Minneapolis? Go there, take pictures, walk around night, do the whole thing - and then come back here and report to us. Those cities are like Disneyland compared to NO.
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Let me help you refocus. If you simply scroll up, you'll see that I never likened "fist fights" to murder. What I did say was that if you are as objective as you claim, which you clearly aren't, you'll see that the murder rate here has plummeted(significantly lowered). Which it has. What I also did was quote you saying that you live here and never run into crime. Though in this post you allude to it being dangerous at night by saying "walk around night" and York and Minneapolis "are like Disneyland compared to N.O." In case you're not sure, what I'm stating is that you keep contradicting yourself. If you never run into crime or poverty here(as you said), why would another city feel safer to you

I don't know about the "boosterism" you keep referencingmod cut.

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Old 03-03-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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Let me help you refocus. If you simply scroll up, you'll see that I never likened "fist fights" to murder. What I did say was that if you are as objective as you claim, which you clearly aren't, you'll see that the murder rate here has plummeted(significantly lowered). Which it has. What I also did was quote you saying that you live here and never run into crime. Though in this post you allude to it being dangerous at night by saying "walk around night" and York and Minneapolis "are like Disneyland compared to N.O." In case you're not sure, what I'm stating is that you keep contradicting yourself. If you never run into crime or poverty here(as you said), why would another city feel safer to you
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How you cannot distinguish what I said earlier from what I'm saying today is beyond me.

No matter how well I avoid the high crime areas of NO - and there are A LOT of them - it is still one of the most violent cities in the world. The crime IS, relatively, avoidable, compared to other high crime cities.

All of that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the crime list issue. mod cut How do you not understand this simple point?

NO has one of the highest murder rates in the world regardless of how well I avoid the bad areas, which there are a ton of. If you know nothing about NO and walk around a random block you are WAY more likely to feel like you are about to be a victim of a crime than if you were dropped into a random location in York or Minneapolis.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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Nolaballa a month ago:

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...you don't just run into in the crime unless you live in one of the poor areas.
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This isn't a city of random crime.
Nolaballa today:

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...walk around a random block you are WAY more likely to feel like you are about to be a victim of a crime
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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You realize all three of the posts are consistent right? NO's poor, crime ridden areas are a much larger % of the city than they are in Minneapolis or York. Much larger.

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