Should the Lee Circle statue be removed? (New Orleans: money, removal)

[DeanGuitarist]

If the statues would be removed, I wonder what next people would be crying about.

[Southern man]

Originally Posted by Ddhanks

If the statues would be removed, I wonder what next people would be crying about.

I believe it goes something like this.

Street names:
Palmer Avenue
Calhoun Street
General Taylor Street
Claiborne Avenue
Galvez Street
Jefferson Davis Parkway (Mayor Mitch Landrieu has also called for Jefferson Davis Parkway to be renamed after recently retired Xavier University president Norman Francis).
General Ogden Street
Ulloa Street
Tulane Avenue
Governor Nicholls Street
Poydras Street
Forshey Street
General Early Street
Robert E. Lee Boulevard
Beauregard Avenue
Walker Street
Mouton Street
Bragg Street
Lane Street
Polk Avenue
Slidell Street
Lee Street
Beauregard Drive
General DeGaulle Drive
School names:
Tulane University
Henry W. Allen Elementary
McDonogh 35 College Preparatory High School
KIPP McDonogh 15 School for the Creative Arts
ReNEW McDonogh City Park Academy
Lusher Charter School
Lusher Charter Elementary School
Hospital names:
Touro Infirmary
Tulane Medical Center
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Monuments:
P.G.T. Bureaugard, at the City Park entrance near Esplanade Avenue.
Jefferson Davis at Canal Street and Jefferson Davis Parkway.
Rev. Abram Joseph Ryan at Jefferson Davis Parkway and Banks Street.
Confederate Brig. Gen. Albert Pike monument at Tulane Avenue and Jefferson Davis Parkway.
Henry Clay at Lafayette Square.
World War 1 Memorial arch at 3800 Burgundy Street (Take ‘Em Down NOLA cites the segregation of names of black soldiers from the names of white soldiers as a reason for wanting this monument’s removal).
Andrew Jackson monument in Jackson Square.
Justice Edward Douglass White in the 400 block of Royal Street.
Bienville monument at Conti and Decatur and North Peters streets.
Battle of Liberty Place monument near the foot of Iberville Street.
John McDonogh statue at Lafayette Square.
Robert E. Lee at Lee Circle.


Read more: Read Take ‘Em Down NOLA’s List Of Historical Names To Be Scrubbed In New Orleans Here | The Hayride

And then everybody will be happy, right?

[DeanGuitarist]

Originally Posted by Southern man

I believe it goes something like this.

Street names:
Palmer Avenue
Calhoun Street
General Taylor Street
Claiborne Avenue
Galvez Street
Jefferson Davis Parkway (Mayor Mitch Landrieu has also called for Jefferson Davis Parkway to be renamed after recently retired Xavier University president Norman Francis).
General Ogden Street
Ulloa Street
Tulane Avenue
Governor Nicholls Street
Poydras Street
Forshey Street
General Early Street
Robert E. Lee Boulevard
Beauregard Avenue
Walker Street
Mouton Street
Bragg Street
Lane Street
Polk Avenue
Slidell Street
Lee Street
Beauregard Drive
General DeGaulle Drive
School names:
Tulane University
Henry W. Allen Elementary
McDonogh 35 College Preparatory High School
KIPP McDonogh 15 School for the Creative Arts
ReNEW McDonogh City Park Academy
Lusher Charter School
Lusher Charter Elementary School
Hospital names:
Touro Infirmary
Tulane Medical Center
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Monuments:
P.G.T. Bureaugard, at the City Park entrance near Esplanade Avenue.
Jefferson Davis at Canal Street and Jefferson Davis Parkway.
Rev. Abram Joseph Ryan at Jefferson Davis Parkway and Banks Street.
Confederate Brig. Gen. Albert Pike monument at Tulane Avenue and Jefferson Davis Parkway.
Henry Clay at Lafayette Square.
World War 1 Memorial arch at 3800 Burgundy Street (Take ‘Em Down NOLA cites the segregation of names of black soldiers from the names of white soldiers as a reason for wanting this monument’s removal).
Andrew Jackson monument in Jackson Square.
Justice Edward Douglass White in the 400 block of Royal Street.
Bienville monument at Conti and Decatur and North Peters streets.
Battle of Liberty Place monument near the foot of Iberville Street.
John McDonogh statue at Lafayette Square.
Robert E. Lee at Lee Circle.


Read more: Read Take ‘Em Down NOLA’s List Of Historical Names To Be Scrubbed In New Orleans Here | The Hayride

And then everybody will be happy, right?

In short, I don't think they will ever be happy!

[annie_himself]

Silly black people!

[Dport7674]

How do we get them to stop talking about inner city jobs and education, incarceration rates, militarized police forces killing young black men, wealth inequality..

"It's the statues and street names that you need to focus on. Trust us. We know what's best for you. We're on your side... Don't look over here, look over there."


Spend years fighting to tear down the statues. When they finally tear them down feel a sense of victory....Then look around at your neighborhoods and schools. The joke's on you. They never actually cared about the statues.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by Dport7674

How do we get them to stop talking about inner city jobs and education, incarceration rates, militarized police forces killing young black men, wealth inequality..

"It's the statues and street names that you need to focus on. Trust us. We know what's best for you. We're on your side... Don't look over here, look over there."


Spend years fighting to tear down the statues. When they finally tear them down feel a sense of victory....Then look around at your neighborhoods and schools. The joke's on you. They never actually cared about the statues.

I don't think that has gotten anyone to stop talking about those things. At least not that I've seen.

[rgathrights]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

...
I'd like to see a monument to the Tulsa race riots, something that is not taught in most schools today and is extremely important part of American history. ...

John Hope Franklin Reconciliation Park

Reconciliation Park is the long-awaited result of the 2001 Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. It memorializes the Tulsa Race Riot, called the worst civic disturbance in American history. The Park also tells the story of African Americans’ role in building Oklahoma and thus begins the long-delayed rendering of the full account of Oklahoma’s history.

John Hope Franklin » Reconciliation Park

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by rgathrights

John Hope Franklin Reconciliation Park

Reconciliation Park is the long-awaited result of the 2001 Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. It memorializes the Tulsa Race Riot, called the worst civic disturbance in American history. The Park also tells the story of African Americans’ role in building Oklahoma and thus begins the long-delayed rendering of the full account of Oklahoma’s history.

John Hope Franklin » Reconciliation Park

Awesome. I'd like to see more of these monuments.

[BeauCharles]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Awesome. I'd like to see more of these monuments.

Too bad it always seems to be a zero sum game anymore. Can't have both, one must replace the other.

[cBach]

Well apparently the city doesn't have enough money to take down the statues. The bids came in over $600k and they had budgeted $170k.

Bid to remove Confederate monuments exceeds city's $170K budget | NOLA.com