Should I Move To NOLA? (New Orleans, Arabi: 2015, crimes, neighborhood)

[selogic]

With the help of liberal white apologists , it happens .

[writingpoli]

My wife has had items thrown at her from moving vehicles by men yelling, "Get the **** out of here, you white *****!" while she's out walking the dog minding her own business.

That does not happen in every city.

The part of that that bothers us the most is the "white" part. We were taught to treat EVERYONE with respect and consideration regardless of color, ethnicities, purple unicorn-ness, etc.

And this IS a violent city. Let's be honest.

But, let me ask, you'd be cool with your wife and daughter paying $950 a month to live and wander around the area of Felicity and Chippewa?

I've lived in Harlem, Alabama, Biloxi, Austin, among other places. New Orleans is its own ballgame in the violence and racism departments.

Also, the Times-Picayune and The Advocate are good sources for a regular rundown of the murders. Last week, in one day, there were 29 major crimes (homicides, armed robberies, rapes) within one mile of my place in the Lower Garden District, which also happens to be the most expensive neighborhood as well (I, obviously, don't live in that part).

How does that not mesh with what I said about being careful which street you live on?

Annie, being in control of a gun and threatening to or actually killing someone because of their color -- any color -- is a hate crime. Being in possession of a deadly weapon tends to nullify whatever systemic economic and social oppression either person experiences.

I don't hate the city. I'm just trying to be honest. The way people were with me when I moved to town.

Everyone finds their own way to love it. Among other things, there are many kind, compassionate, caring, helpful and smart people in this city. But let's not bury our heads in the sand about the problems (or maybe that's why they've been around so long) in New Orleans. Apathy doesn't look good on any city.

Edit: Also NOPD's Major Offense Log: http://www.nola.gov/nopd/major-offense-log/

[norb123]

Originally Posted by writingpoli

My wife has had items thrown at her from moving vehicles by men yelling, "Get the **** out of here, you white *****!" while she's out walking the dog minding her own business.

That does not happen in every city.

The part of that that bothers us the most is the "white" part. We were taught to treat EVERYONE with respect and consideration regardless of color, ethnicities, purple unicorn-ness, etc.

And this IS a violent city. Let's be honest.

But, let me ask, you'd be cool with your wife and daughter paying $950 a month to live and wander around the area of Felicity and Chippewa?

I've lived in Harlem, Alabama, Biloxi, Austin, among other places. New Orleans is its own ballgame in the violence and racism departments.

Also, the Times-Picayune and The Advocate are good sources for a regular rundown of the murders. Last week, in one day, there were 29 major crimes (homicides, armed robberies, rapes) within one mile of my place in the Lower Garden District, which also happens to be the most expensive neighborhood as well (I, obviously, don't live in that part).

How does that not mesh with what I said about being careful which street you live on?

Annie, being in control of a gun and threatening to or actually killing someone because of their color -- any color -- is a hate crime. Being in possession of a deadly weapon tends to nullify whatever systemic economic and social oppression either person experiences.

I don't hate the city. I'm just trying to be honest. The way people were with me when I moved to town.

Everyone finds their own way to love it. Among other things, there are many kind, compassionate, caring, helpful and smart people in this city. But let's not bury our heads in the sand about the problems (or maybe that's why they've been around so long) in New Orleans. Apathy doesn't look good on any city.

Edit: Also NOPD's Major Offense Log: NOPD - Major Offense Log - City of New Orleans

I'm sorry that happened to your wife. If something like that happened to me I guess it would make me a little jaded also.

I'm not big on checking the stats daily. I have lived here for a total of 10 years, seven of those years with my family.we've never had any problems with crime. My stepdaughter is now 22 and has her own place off of Napoleon, and she goes to school, works, and has a very social life. She is out at all hours and never has a problem.

There is definitely too much crime down here, but I think if it was as bad as you say, we would have had some problems somewhere. Maybe we're just lucky. I know it's possible to be a victim at any time, in any city, but I'm not going to change the way I live out of fear. If I get to the point that I'm nervous to take a walk in my own neighborhood, I will move.

[foxelipsus]

New Orleans is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, it is humid and crazy-hot, and it has obscene levels of violence, especially in certain neighborhoods. I wouldn't live there, but I am quite sure that other than the crime levels, I would love living there. The food is incredible and it is easily one of the most magical cities in the world.

America should be pouring billions into New Orleans to turn it into the safe, peaceful tourist mecca that it should be. I don't mean gentrification, I mean a safe place for kids to grow up, that this obscenely wealthy nation takes care of.

[norb123]

Originally Posted by foxelipsus

New Orleans is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, it is humid and crazy-hot, and it has obscene levels of violence, especially in certain neighborhoods. I wouldn't live there, but I am quite sure that other than the crime levels, I would love living there. The food is incredible and it is easily one of the most magical cities in the world.

America should be pouring billions into New Orleans to turn it into the safe, peaceful tourist mecca that it should be. I don't mean gentrification, I mean a safe place for kids to grow up, that this obscenely wealthy nation takes care of.

My kid gets to go to awesome festivals almost every weekend. My kid gets to see the Mardi Gras Indians on Mardi Gras morning, my kid gets to dress up for almost every holiday. My kid goes to a school that has a 10 rating on great schools.

Things could definitely be better down here, but they aren't as bad as the news would have you believe. I wouldn't trade my life in New Orleans for any other city. Every where else I have lived is boring in comparison, and the violence that you talk about is not an issue in our lives....at least it's not an issue in my daughter's life. I would love to see the crime rate go down, but my everyday life is no different than any city I've lived in.

[foxelipsus]

Originally Posted by norb123

My kid gets to go to awesome festivals almost every weekend. My kid gets to see the Mardi Gras Indians on Mardi Gras morning, my kid gets to dress up for almost every holiday. My kid goes to a school that has a 10 rating on great schools.

Things could definitely be better down here, but they aren't as bad as the news would have you believe. I wouldn't trade my life in New Orleans for any other city. Every where else I have lived is boring in comparison, and the violence that you talk about is not an issue in our lives....at least it's not an issue in my daughter's life. I would love to see the crime rate go down, but my everyday life is no different than any city I've lived in.

I agree completely that for many or even most in New Orleans, it's not an issue. It's home and it's safe and it's lovely.

But statistically speaking, a lot of New Orleans needs help. It needs more police, better paid police, better training, better economic prospects, new ways to heal the city and tackle crime, and in terms of economic statistics there are still way too many people below the poverty line for America to be okay with this. In such a rich country, there do not need to be tens of millions below the poverty line. A lot of the people below the poverty line are Black Americans. A lot of them and their families have been below the poverty line ever since emancipation. There are also millions of non Black Americans below the poverty line. I don't know how America can move forward and be proud of itself while it has tens of millions struggling to survive, while tens of millions more live in relative luxury.

[norb123]

Originally Posted by foxelipsus

I agree completely that for many or even most in New Orleans, it's not an issue. It's home and it's safe and it's lovely.

But statistically speaking, a lot of New Orleans needs help. It needs more police, better paid police, better training, better economic prospects, new ways to heal the city and tackle crime, and in terms of economic statistics there are still way too many people below the poverty line for America to be okay with this. In such a rich country, there do not need to be tens of millions below the poverty line. A lot of the people below the poverty line are Black Americans. A lot of them and their families have been below the poverty line ever since emancipation. There are also millions of non Black Americans below the poverty line. I don't know how America can move forward and be proud of itself while it has tens of millions struggling to survive, while tens of millions more live in relative luxury.

I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying that not everyone down here is dodging bullets when they walk out their front door.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by foxelipsus

I agree completely that for many or even most in New Orleans, it's not an issue. It's home and it's safe and it's lovely.

But statistically speaking, a lot of New Orleans needs help. It needs more police, better paid police, better training, better economic prospects, new ways to heal the city and tackle crime, and in terms of economic statistics there are still way too many people below the poverty line for America to be okay with this. In such a rich country, there do not need to be tens of millions below the poverty line. A lot of the people below the poverty line are Black Americans. A lot of them and their families have been below the poverty line ever since emancipation. There are also millions of non Black Americans below the poverty line. I don't know how America can move forward and be proud of itself while it has tens of millions struggling to survive, while tens of millions more live in relative luxury.

The poor keep the rich, rich. They need us to buy their junk because we think we need it.

[foxelipsus]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

The poor keep the rich, rich. They need us to buy their junk because we think we need it.

Exactly. Because they convince us we need it by spending billions brainwashing/hypnotizing (advertising) us to think so.

We also keep the rich rich as the poor pay their taxes, the middle class pay tons of taxes, and the richest of the rich (including the billion dollar corporations) pay lawyers to get them out of their taxes instead of paying taxes.

[WhoDatInMD]

Originally Posted by norb123

I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying that not everyone down here is dodging bullets when they walk out their front door.

True, especially many parts of New Orleans East which many people want to condemn as a whole