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Old 11-24-2009, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge
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It's the Mississippi River. The manufacturing base has all but vanished in the midwest, and the lifeblood of all the cities on the river has been shipped overseas. Let's look at the "great" cities on the Miss: St. Louis (crap), Memphis (crap), New orleans (crap). The problem is that we don't make anything in this country anymore. What else is left to entice anyone to live in NOLA? Oh yeah.."quality of life". Good luck getting anyone to relocate there in the 21st century information based world.
Here's a pretty uninformed poster...

Lifeblood of New Orleans shipped overseas? What on Earth are you talking about. New Orleans used to be about big oil, and although the main offices are now all in Houston, several regional offices remain in the area, not to mention the refineries. It remains one of the most important ports in the nation, as well as a vital rail link. Not to mention the huge presence of the healthcare industry, or the Nasa Assembly Facility (one of the biggest manufacturing facilities in the world), the Avondale Shipyards, etc.

All you have to do to know people are coming to the New Orleans area is look through the forum.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Monroe!
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New Orleans downfall was political/social (in which white flight my not have been the direct or major cause, but did play part).
booyahh!!
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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Will NOLA ever regain its glory??
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: City of Central
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Will NOLA ever regain its glory??
First of all , how do you define " glory " ?
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:19 AM
 
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Heh, glory. Cities always had troubles although the drug outbursts of the 80s really set things back.

Nola is like most major cities, what it REALLY needs is civic engagement and a real leader one that the city can look up to and the suburbanites can't easily through rotten tomatoes at. I know Philly needs one.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:32 AM
 
Location: The French Quarter of New Orleans
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My opinion on this is kind of narrow, being an ex-resident of the French Quarter (Vieux Carre'). I recently (less than a month ago) moved away due to being a victim of a mugging (my second in two years in the Quarter).

I think the in-your-face corruption and inneptitude of the city government is a factor. I have to be at least slightly intoxicated to even watch a city council meeting. The lack of a decent public education system, a strong middle class within the city proper, the thuggish police department, slummy housing, a lack of jobs, and urban decay are all factors.

But, one thing I'm a little surprised to NOT here from natives on this forum is the loss of the local identity. The influx of tourons-become-residents has hurt the town's culture. It's rare to hear people saying "yeah you rite" and "yes indeed" on street corners, bars, and groceries anymore.

And, I don't care how this makes me sound, but BAD urban planning plays a huge role in the violent crime and muggings/pursesnatchings that o
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:36 AM
 
Location: The French Quarter of New Orleans
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...occur and a regular, if not constant base in the neighborhood.

Tear down the Iberville, build levees that aren't a joke, and bring back the National Guard for as long as humanly possible.
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: City of Central
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It's not just poor urban planning , demographics plays a huge part .
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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I think the in-your-face corruption and inneptitude of the city government is a factor. I have to be at least slightly intoxicated to even watch a city council meeting. The lack of a decent public education system, a strong middle class within the city proper
I agree

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the thuggish police department, slummy housing, a lack of jobs, and urban decay are all factors.
NOPD is nothing like they were 1992-1994, they do have they're problems (mainly within leadership, but thats the problem with everythig around here).

"Slummy", really? I know that there is a large portion of the housing stock that are in bad condition, but there is just as much in good condition. I mean if you prefer the "shiney new" surburban type housing you were welcome to move to Jefferson, the Northshore, or the southern end of BR. I do have to say though, those 100 year old slums held up much much better than the homes im Jefferson and the East during both Katrina and Ike. Urban decay and job issues are all results of the social and political dysfunction of Southeast Louisiana.

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But, one thing I'm a little surprised to NOT here from natives on this forum is the loss of the local identity. The influx of tourons-become-residents has hurt the town's culture. It's rare to hear people saying "yeah you rite" and "yes indeed" on street corners, bars, and groceries anymore.
Maybe you didn't go far enough away from the Quarter.

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And, I don't care how this makes me sound, but BAD urban planning plays a huge role in the violent crime and muggings/pursesnatchings that o
Are you saying that we should just bulldoze and segregate the city like most other southern cities so that the crime/muggings/pursnatching will still exist, but will be easier to ignore?

If you knew anything about urban planning, you would know that NOLA is the best planned city in Louisiana and probably the south. The problem is leadership in this city. The City of New Orleans is synonymous with ineptitude. Up until recetly everything was half-assed or just not done at all. Hopefully things will continue to change, but who knows. While on the subject of urban planning take a look at Baton Rouge. A city horrible urban planning and crime issues of it's own, yet it continues to grow and has developed at an amazing rate on the south side. Same can be said for Atlanta or Houston.

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Tear down the Iberville, build levees that aren't a joke, and bring back the National Guard for as long as humanly possible
I fully agree that many problems spillover from the Iberville, but if HANO, the city, and the state were on their toes the Iberville would not be an issue.


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It's not just poor urban planning , demographics plays a huge part .
mhmm
You're right, though. Every single demographic out of the hundreds in this city plays a part.

Last edited by knoxgarden; 12-06-2009 at 01:51 PM.. Reason: removed personal attack
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Yes, urban planning has very little to do with it.
New Orleans mixes commercial and residential which is FAR better than Houston or Atlanta today.
And I like the Council...this is the best Council we've had in forever...especially Stacy Head who has dared to stand against the corrupt system in City Hall.
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