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Old 12-17-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge
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I don't think there will ever be a "New South". Too much non favorable history toward black people. Too conservative and still a little bit scary if you are on a road trip and take the wrong turn.
My sister drove across country to take my niece to college .. they got lost in some rural area in Mississippi. My nephew went into the gas station to pay for the gas and was told ' we ain't got no gas available for y'all right now'. The guy ( a hillbilly ) came out and watched until they left. This was 8 years ago but it still sticks in their minds.
I believe that you're telling the truth, but you could say the same about very rural areas in other parts of the country. My brother spent some time in rural wisconsin...BOY, does he have some funny stories about those folks.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:25 PM
 
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This is the New South to me: Atlanta, Charlotte, Piedmont Triad region, Orlando, Tampa-St. Petersburg, Miami(the latter two I think are totally different worlds, and in a good way in some instances ), and the Chesapeake region of Virginia stretching from the Tidewater to NoVA.

New Orleans is still Old South to me.

Houston and Dallas, well, I don't consider those cities to be Southern.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Houston is caught in some netherworld between Southern and just Texas.

There is a massive infusion of newblood in the city since Katrina, and it feels different...to me anyhow but I've been in the middle of some of the interesting things in the city too.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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Houston is caught in some netherworld between Southern and just Texas.

There is a massive infusion of newblood in the city since Katrina, and it feels different...to me anyhow but I've been in the middle of some of the interesting things in the city too.
Houston is in Texas. To me, the Southeast ends once you pass the Piney Woods/Beaumont area.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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New South vs. Old South dates back to the 1960s, the Civil Rights movement and the aftermath of forced desegregation. It's black mayors and equal rights in place of George Wallace, the Birmingham bombing and Jim Crow laws.
Cities like Atlanta called themselves the "New South" and "The City Too Busy to Hate" to try to get away from the stigma of segregation and the fight to prevent desegregation.
New Orleans was never really caught up in that, at least as far as I can remember.
There's a good book by Curtis Wilkie called Dixie that talks about the change from Old South to New South in a small town in Mississippi. Good reading. Curtis lives part-time in New Orleans.
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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This is the New South to me: Atlanta, Charlotte, Piedmont Triad region, Orlando, Tampa-St. Petersburg, Miami(the latter two I think are totally different worlds, and in a good way in some instances ), and the Chesapeake region of Virginia stretching from the Tidewater to NoVA.

New Orleans is still Old South to me.

Houston and Dallas, well, I don't consider those cities to be Southern.
If Houston isn't southern than neither is New Orleans or SW Louisana. You can't deny that the cultures of the two cities aren't intertwined, but then again I never got the "old south" feel from New Orleans myself. When I think of "old south" I think of Birmingham or somewhere.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:29 PM
 
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Well New Orleans is the Gulf South as opposed to the Deep South of inland Alabama, Georgia and northern Mississippi
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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There are also certain places white people can't go in the south too----some parts of New Orleans come to mind. Racism really ruins a lot of things doesn't it?
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:13 PM
 
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New Orleans core culture still makes it the best city in South. It just need a leader who can get the city back to where it should be. Like General Honore
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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There are also certain places white people can't go in the south too----some parts of New Orleans come to mind. Racism really ruins a lot of things doesn't it?
Have you ever been to NO?
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