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Old 01-19-2010, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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Making it illegal to rent property to anyone who isn't a blood relative? This is why I say it was a race issue. Places like Chalmette already had a tiny Black population to begin with. After Katrina went through there, alot of people got their stuff jacked up and alot of people left. No one knew who would come back, but if there are no Blacks in a place, which was the case during September 2005 for St Bernard Parish, well, no one has to say "No Blacks Allowed" or even put up laws explicitly saying it. It will just happen by design.
I bet you didn't hear about the blacks at East Over in New Orleans East also voting against allowing low income renters into that neighborhood. Hell, even the councilwomen from New Orleans East, who is black voted against allowing low income rentals.

Is that racism when a black votes against low income rentals or is it only racism when non-blacks vote it out?


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Old 01-19-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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I bet you didn't hear about the blacks at East Over in New Orleans East also voting against allowing low income renters into that neighborhood. Hell, even the councilwomen from New Orleans East, who is black voted against allowing low income rentals.

Is that racism when a black votes against low income rentals or is it only racism when non-blacks vote it out?


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Oh, yes indeed. Can't leave out the "hyphens". It wasn't just East Over either, it was everything north of I-10 and east of Hayne.
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:40 PM
 
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If I was one of those people I would rather sit on the bridge than have the Algiers Point Vigilantes sitting at the offramp waiting for me to come down. It was a "damned if you don't damned if you do" situation. It's not like things were that much better across the river. The only difference was less water. You could sit on the Eastbank and deal with all kinds of hell while NOPD and the military pointed rifles at you or you could sit on the Westbank while NOPD and JPSO pointed riffles at you and herded you up like cattle. Things on the Westbank were being looted and the mall was already on fire. Everyone is scared and panicked.

I'm not defending anybody as I think it was wrong myself, but it's just complicated. It's too many different factors playing in to pull out just one.
What keeps getting lost in this discussion of the CCC incident is that the people who job it is to enforce the law, broke the law. The people on that bridge had the right to cross that bridge and that is the issue that we should be discussing. The only people on that bridge who were acting like criminals were the people who get paid to maintain order. When people start breaking laws to supposedly protect the common good, we are getting closer to communism. Please stop giving excuses for trampling on the rights of others or next times it might be your rights. The criminals with badges should be in jail with the rest of the crooks! Furthermore, if they would have just denied access, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion, but the people on the bridge was so shocked by the behavior of so-called law enforcement personnel that they had to tell the story.
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:46 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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What keeps getting lost in this discussion of the CCC incident is that the people who job it is to enforce the law, broke the law. The people on that bridge had the right to cross that bridge and that is the issue that we should be discussing. The only people on that bridge who were acting like criminals were the people who get paid to maintain order. When people start breaking laws to supposedly protect the common good, we are getting closer to communism. Please stop giving excuses for trampling on the rights of others or next times it might be your rights. The criminals with badges should be in jail with the rest of the crooks! Furthermore, if they would have just denied access, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion, but the people on the bridge was so shocked by the behavior of so-called law enforcement personnel that they had to tell the story.
Re-read everything I said. I said more than once that I didn't agree with it. I was just addressing the fact they wouldn't have been better off if they had of crossed. The discussion was based on the racial aspect of the situation. There was another bridge where people were actually shot dead. There was a group of NOPD officers killing people as well as burning bodies in cars. The entire city was lawless. Were they racist as well? Are those blacks that stood behind JPSO (even though I believe they were wrong) racist? <-- That was the topic of discussion, not whether or not laws were broken. Next time you want to accuse me of "giving excuses for trampling right", please be sure to know where the discussion is going.

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Old 01-20-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge
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What keeps getting lost in this discussion of the CCC incident is that the people who job it is to enforce the law, broke the law. The people on that bridge had the right to cross that bridge and that is the issue that we should be discussing. The only people on that bridge who were acting like criminals were the people who get paid to maintain order. When people start breaking laws to supposedly protect the common good, we are getting closer to communism. Please stop giving excuses for trampling on the rights of others or next times it might be your rights. The criminals with badges should be in jail with the rest of the crooks! Furthermore, if they would have just denied access, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion, but the people on the bridge was so shocked by the behavior of so-called law enforcement personnel that they had to tell the story.
Were you there on that bridge?
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:29 PM
 
Location: City of Central
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[quote=WestbankNOLA;12523880] There was another bridge where people were actually shot dead. There was a group of NOPD officers killing people as well as burning bodies in cars. quote]

And you actually believe this ?
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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And you actually believe this ?
You have no choice but to believe the truth.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:27 AM
 
Location: City of Central
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You have no choice but to believe the truth.
Did you witness it ? Did any of the news organizations report it ? Can you provide a link to the story ? I'd be interested in seeing it . Seriously .
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Old 01-21-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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Law & Disorder - NOLA.com
7 N.O. cops indicted in killings on Danziger Bridge | New Orleans Metro Crime and Courts News - - NOLA.com
White Gunmen Go On The Record About Shooting Blacks During Katrina: "If it moved, we shot it!" | Notes on New Orleans - NOLA.com
Editorial: Federal investigation into New Orleans post-Katrina killing is warranted | Editorials - NOLA.com

^all I had time to find.. probably not the best, but it gives you the general idea. You should talk to people and listen to the things they went through.
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:05 PM
 
Location: City of Central
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Ok , a couple of isolated incidents . ONE burned body , etc. That , I can believe .
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