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I live in elmont in nassau county and i wouldnt say cambria heights is wealthy. its a nice neighborhood(sp) with working class people but not wealthy. I think rosedale is a wealthier place than cambria heights. To me the houses in rosedale are much larger.
I responded to this thread a while ago saying that I don't think there's a NYC equivalent to the type of neighborhoods the poster referenced in DC. Neither Cambria Heights nor Rosedale would be considered wealthy neighborhoods. They simply don't have the income levels.
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Originally Posted by Thehouse
such an old thread to respond to. anyway,
I live in elmont in nassau county and i wouldnt say cambria heights is wealthy. its a nice neighborhood(sp) with working class people but not wealthy. I think rosedale is a wealthier place than cambria heights. To me the houses in rosedale are much larger.
I don't believe that NY has an equivalent -- I have been searching for it myself and have not found it yet. The SE Queens neighborhoods that many of you have listed (Laurelton, St. Albans, Cambria Heights, Springfield Gardens) are more solidly working/middle class neighborhoods (I know, I grew up there). Blacks, as you have described, tend to NOT live in the five boros, especially if they have children. Many I know are in NJ, and Westchester. There was a huge exodus of the black professional class in the '80s-90s. Many left (understandably) because the crack epidemic destroyed our once nice neighborhoods. Jamaica Estates is a mixed neighborhood -- white north of the Grand Central Parkway and asian south of the parkway. Blacks tend to live in the apartments close to Hillside Avenue.
The following neighborhoods are mixed but I think have more of a concentration of the type of black people you're looking for than any neighborhood in NYC:
New Jersey: West Orange, Maplewood, (some parts of Plainfield), Teaneck, Hackensack, Montclair
New York: New Rochelle, White Plains zip code 10607
Connecticut: Norwalk
To the OP, most of the comments in this thread are either from those who don't comprehend what you're looking for or simply are not correct.
The above poster is the only one to offer real information.
I know what's going on in the DC area and Atlanta, as well as to a lessor extent N.C. Unfortunately, a similar such circumstance has not developed in the NYC area. Frankly, over the last 20 years or so, the sort of AAs you're looking for have escaped this city and settled en masse in, DC/Atlanta/NC. So, you're not going to find whole towns or neighborhoods. Up here commensurate salaries and house prices would be well in excess of $500K and $1M respectively. There just isn't a mass of concentrated black income of that sort here. Rather, it is dispersed; there are small enclaves usually within liberal towns, and those mixed in and among all over the tri-state area.
That said, within the confines of NYC, Queens is your only suburban type option, and that would be the neighborhoods of Jamaica Estates (despite some of the nonsense spouted previously) and Hollis Heights, here you'll find the sort of commensurate homes you might expect, but it is not all black. There are a goodly number though, and the areas neighbor other areas of middle class blacks.
Other than that you could seek out the enclaves existing in larger neighborhoods of Harlem (Sugar Hill, Strivers Row), Bed-Stuy (Stuyvesant Heights), Flatbush (Prospect Lefferts Gardens). most of these areas are traditionally black bourgeois, but are in some stage of gentrification.
Dix Hills on Long Island is a rich liberal town, where blacks of professional economic stature live in and among. Towns in New Jersey, Montclair, Teaneck and Tenafly, are liberal areas where such blacks have settled over the last 40 years or so; but is not solely black, nor necessarily predominantly black.
Also in NJ are the sister towns of South Orange and Maplewood. South Orange in particular has a significant population of middle and upper middle class blacks. Both towns are VERY liberal.
Oh, and there is Alpine, NJ, quite similar to Dix Hills, rich and liberal.
Lastly, there is Westchester county, where I believe the towns of New Rochelle, Mount Vernon and Yonkers which have areas of upper middle class (and downright rich) blacks.
You'll need to do your homework to determine which area is right for you. If you work Google, you should find articles regarding most of the towns and areas above and the blacks who live or have settled there.
Other than that you can just move to Manhattan live in and among and create or locate a community of blacks of like income and social status.
Oh, and here's a final thought, presuming you have the income and social status, there is the town of Sag Harbor on Long Island. It is a part of the Hamptons and has a significant population of upper class and rich blacks who summer there; but you can live there full time as long as its convenient to your work.
JFYI, traditionally the way its done here is either you live in and among, in Manhattan, the suburbs, or in traditional areas of the hood. Then summer together in the traditional places.
There are no wealthy black hoods. But some nice Middle class hoods in Queens such as Jamaica Estates, St Albans, and those areas bordering N.C., L.I. These are very well maintained neighborhoods, with nice homes and tree lined streets...but a way out there from the city. Very suburban.
Been there. More of the city is ghetto, but no worse then what you find in NYC or Newark.
Hmm...don't know about that. Philadelphia has white ghettoes. Not just tough blue-collar white neighborhoods, but white ghettoes where Irish hustle alongside blacks and Puerto Ricans. There's a section of town dubbed the "Badlands" that's full of very, very poor white people. The only other place I've seen this is Baltimore.
And the District of Columbia does not have that many middle class blacks. The best areas for black families, in descending order of preference, are (1) 16th Street (Gold Coast), (2) Shepherd Park, (3) Takoma, (4) Michigan Park and (5) Hillcrest. In fact, these are the only areas where I would consider raising kids in DC. And there are only a handful of good schools in the city: Bunker Hill for elementary, Stuart Hobson/Alice Deal/Jefferson for junior high, and Banneker/Wilson/Walls (maybe) for high school. Beyond that, there aren't too many options, so I'm not sure that DC is really much better than NYC for blacks.
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