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Old 08-23-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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In view in the history between the groups (gang warfare and all around tension) what the basis for soildarity here? Why do NYC based Black people assume brotherhood with a group people who have never reciprocated it?
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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Another loaded thread. A group of people that never reciprocated? Instead of posting this thread with outlandish claims, you should educate yourself..some simple google searches will enlighten you about these 2 groups and how they came to work together in NYC to make the lives of all NYers better in the 60s,70s..and today.
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:51 AM
 
Location: QUEENS NYC
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Ignorant thread with no point and besides half of us are black and rican. Like Lloyd banks.
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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This is a pointless thread. Did you know that Blacks and Puerto Ricans invented Hip Hop in the South Bronx back in the 80's? Did you know that Puerto Ricans and Black activist people joined with each other to stop the discrimination that they were getting from the white people? I guess not. Do your research first. Thanks. Jim Jones, LLoyd Banks, Nore, all of them are half black and half puerto rican.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: WFNJ
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Why not?
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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Also Puerto Ricans and Puerto Rican culture to various degrees is mixed with African in some of it's people and culture(Roberto Clemente,bomba music and dance).
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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Simple. Discrimination. Puerto Ricans arrived during a heavy dose of discrimination of the 40's, 50's, 60's and probably during the 70's. Puerto Ricans were seen as low as blacks by a lot of Whites. They had to live with the Blacks since Whites did not want them in their neighborhoods. The Blacks did not mind the Puerto Ricans living close to them or in their neighborhoods. There was not so much tension. So the two groups learn to accept each other as friends and neighbors. For example I read that in Little Italy in the Bronx, there were business signs on the doors or windows that read stuff like 'No dogs, Puerto Ricans or Blacks allowed'. Imagine the rampant discrimination back then. The police were not to fond of them either. They treated them as bad as they treated Blacks. Lots of beatings. You won't see such level of discrimination today. For example, Dominicans did not had the same level of discrimination. They came later in numbers in the 70's, 80's and 90's and that is why they are not that close to either Blacks or to Puerto Ricans in NYC.
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Simple. Discrimination. Puerto Ricans arrived during a heavy dose of discrimination of the 40's, 50's, 60's and probably during the 70's. Puerto Ricans were seen as low as blacks by a lot of Whites. They had to live with the Blacks since Whites did not want them in their neighborhoods. The Blacks did not mind the Puerto Ricans living close to them or in their neighborhoods. There was not so much tension. So the two groups learn to accept each other as friends and neighbors. For example I read that in Little Italy in the Bronx, there were business signs on the doors or windows that read stuff like 'No dogs, Puerto Ricans or Blacks allowed'. Imagine the rampant discrimination back then. The police were not to fond of them either. They treated them as bad as they treated Blacks. Lots of beatings. You won't see such level of discrimination today. For example, Dominicans did not had the same level of discrimination. They came later in numbers in the 70's, 80's and 90's and that is why they are not that close to either Blacks or to Puerto Ricans in NYC.
I would like to mention that Puerto Ricans were the first hispanic group to be in NYC as well. In NYC Puerto Ricans and Black people live in the same 'hoods' date each other hang out together, and we do not see each other as interacial dating.

Below are some web sites that are worth reading about the relationship about Black and Puerto Ricans.

From Bomba to Hip-Hop: Bomba al Estilo Hip Hop | Puerto Rican Chicago

Amazon.com: New York Ricans from the Hip Hop Zone (9781403960443): Raquel Z. Rivera: Books

Justifying Latino history in Hip-Hop culture

Arturo Alfonso Schomburg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn
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i cant believe the first post. did he just move here?
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Simple. Discrimination. Puerto Ricans arrived during a heavy dose of discrimination of the 40's, 50's, 60's and probably during the 70's. Puerto Ricans were seen as low as blacks by a lot of Whites. They had to live with the Blacks since Whites did not want them in their neighborhoods. The Blacks did not mind the Puerto Ricans living close to them or in their neighborhoods. There was not so much tension. So the two groups learn to accept each other as friends and neighbors. For example I read that in Little Italy in the Bronx, there were business signs on the doors or windows that read stuff like 'No dogs, Puerto Ricans or Blacks allowed'. Imagine the rampant discrimination back then. The police were not to fond of them either. They treated them as bad as they treated Blacks. Lots of beatings. You won't see such level of discrimination today. For example, Dominicans did not had the same level of discrimination. They came later in numbers in the 70's, 80's and 90's and that is why they are not that close to either Blacks or to Puerto Ricans in NYC.
I remember watching a documentry about an organization called aspira. During the 1950s a puertorican lady was looking for an apartment in east morrisania and the landlady of the building was jewish. Upon asking the landlady can I have an apartment to rent the landlady asked the puertorican ladt are you puertorican and she closed the door in her face. Lots of housing discrimination in those days in the 50s against puertoricans.
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