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Old 12-29-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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Something interesting for you guys to note. Blacks from Cuba, Colombia, Peru, Brazil, and Haiti are different from the blacks in the Dominican Republic. The blacks in the Dominican Republic look mixed. They do not look straight out of sub-saharan Africa. This is because back during the colony days, white slave masters and black slaves in the DR had a "good" relationship. The DR was mostly cattle farming, which required cooperation from both slave and master. If you contrast this to Haiti, which was plantations, the master had absolute power over slaves. Also, Spain encouraged spanish men to mix with African women because they were losing power in Hispanola to the French, and wanted to regain some of it back. In the end result, the Dominican people, black and white (and Taino) were mixing while blacks in Cuba, Haiti, Colombia, Brazil etc ran away from their masters into their enclaves and mix with themselves, giving them a relatively unmixed look. Look at a dark Dominicans:

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Compare to Bantu from Sub-saharan Africa:

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Dark Dominicans clearly show mix race, the miscagenation that occured there is clearly visible, and it has been mixing for years.

Mostly none of the western North & south American blacks look sub-saharan.

You can tell the difference when you see an African immigrant.

Most blacks in the western world are mixed.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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does this have to do with Brazil large population in south america?
Brazil is the biggest country in South America
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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You also see Dominicans like that, but are likely of Haitian descent like famous politician Pena Gomez:

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Remember now, atleast 20% of the people in the Dominican are illegal Haitians.

and to All-American, American blacks are mixed, Brazil, DR, PR for the most part but it's much less so with Cuba, Colombia, and Haiti.
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:54 AM
 
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Why are you excluding Brasil? Its in South America
you said this

"Most of central & south America don't speak Spanish."

EVERY country in central and south america DOES speak spanish, EXCEPT for five - belize, the 3 guianas, and Brazil. Of those 5, all are tiny EXCEPT Brazil. There are as many spanish speakers in south america as there are Portugese speakers. There are MORE spanish speakers in central and south america together than there are Portugese speakers. Ergo, your above sentence is incorrect.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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You also see Dominicans like that, but are likely of Haitian descent like famous politician Pena Gomez:

Google Image Result for http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/penagomez1.jpg

Remember now, atleast 20% of the people in the Dominican are illegal Haitians.

and to All-American, American blacks are mixed, Brazil, DR, PR for the most part but it's much less so with Cuba, Colombia, and Haiti.
new york city has plenty of black unmixed dominicans who have no haitians in them such as my homegirl liz.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:01 PM
 
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new york city has plenty of black unmixed dominicans who have no haitians in them such as my homegirl liz.
I seriously doubt she has no Haitian in her. I can't even imagine a scenario in which someone in the dr could go unmixed. Maybe unless she is from the samana peninsula which housed African Americans and other carribean blacks with no mixing whatsoever. They even speak English in samana, and is easily the darkest area in the Dominican. For reference, look at Hanley ramirez, superstar of the fl marlins and a native of samana.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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you said this

"Most of central & south America don't speak Spanish."

EVERY country in central and south america DOES speak spanish, EXCEPT for five - belize, the 3 guianas, and Brazil. Of those 5, all are tiny EXCEPT Brazil. There are as many spanish speakers in south america as there are Portugese speakers. There are MORE spanish speakers in central and south america together than there are Portugese speakers. Ergo, your above sentence is incorrect.
Not true.
I agree with you on smaller countries speak other languages other than Spanish.
But if you add 52% of south american Portuguese speakers you get at most 30-35% Spanish Speakers in South America.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:29 PM
 
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I seriously doubt she has no Haitian in her. I can't even imagine a scenario in which someone in the dr could go unmixed. Maybe unless she is from the samana peninsula which housed African Americans and other carribean blacks with no mixing whatsoever. They even speak English in samana, and is easily the darkest area in the Dominican. For reference, look at Hanley ramirez, superstar of the fl marlins and a native of samana.
well before i took notice to these racial things i use to arrogantly say she has haitian in her because she is black but she claims no none whatsoever. In fact she darker then me but i guess i don't count cause i have white admixture in me but she looks like your average black women.

but she isnt the first though. I hear stuff such as the black pop in dr are the most that mostly leave the country to immigrate.
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:16 PM
 
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so your saying the french are Hispanic? i thought ethnic grouping was based on more than language....
in reality latino and Hispanic are 2 different terms.
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