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No,it's assaults and robberies that are freaking people in the W Village out.That and having drug dealers and prostitutes "working" in their doorways.
Ok lets compare the assault and robbery rates for the 6th precinct (Greenwich Village) and 28th precinct (Lower Central Harlem). Former has a pop of 62,226 and latter has a pop of 44,781: robberies and assaults in 6th precinct are 148 and 94, respectively, robberies and assaults in 28th precinct are 254 and 187, respectively. Keep in mind, 28th precinct has a significantly smaller population than the 6th precinct and yet the 6th precinct is freaking out?! Really?!
also @ bluedog, this area is an exception to the rule and you are actually supporting our point in the sense that people are far more worried to live in an area that sees it's fair share of violent crime as opposed to an area that leads the city in non-violent crimes...
.. but if we were to compare, we could say that the chances of being a victim of a violent crime in manhattan would be lets say 1 in 10,000 as opposed to in an area like brownsville or east ny it may be 1 in 1,000 or 500...
That's not what per capita or per person crime rates indicate.
this is a disgusting story about what the nypd tried to do in order to cover their behinds... unfortunately even though it wasn't their fault they ended up taking the life of an innocent bystander in the process... unfortunately knowing how this police system works, the bullet will never be matched to any gun and the PO that took this good woman's life will go about his business as if nothing ever happened...
Ok lets compare the assault and robbery rates for the 6th precinct (Greenwich Village) and 28th precinct (Lower Central Harlem). Former has a pop of 62,226 and latter has a pop of 44,781: robberies and assaults in 6th precinct are 148 and 94, respectively, robberies and assaults in 28th precinct are 254 and 187, respectively. Keep in mind, 28th precinct has a significantly smaller population than the 6th precinct and yet the 6th precinct is freaking out?! Really?!
No offense but how do we know the populations of the precincts in Manhattan where community board districts don't coincide with precincts ?
And again,the assaults especially are mostly occurring within a group( thugs) in Harlem while the ones in the W Village are happening to people walking around the neighborhood.
Wasn't that just put into effect not too long ago... Nonetheless it has no bearing on the increase we have seen over the past couple of years...
It doesn't have bearing on prior years, but it does on this one. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but the logic is fairly simple: create a new felony classification, and that category will rise. It's not rocket science.
Now that we have dissected the village problem,anyone care to explain away the high crime in Park Slope and Williamsburg ?
There was no real "dissection" of the W Village crime, it's not like you won an argument.
So if someone asks which neighborhoods are safer to live in based on those crime rates, would you advertise living in Uptown or the South BX over downtown? I'm really curious to how you're gonna answer this.
You people are pretty new at this it seems. Don't look at total crime please. All you need to look at is VIOLENT CRIME. These are the most dangerous neighborhoods in NYC.
1.) Hunts Point (I've been telling everyone for years that it has more crime than Brownsville.)
2. Brownsville
3.) Bed-Stuy
4.) Mott Haven
5.) East Tremont
6.) Central Harlem
7.) East NY
8.) Morrisania
9.) East Harlem
10.) Jamaica
I excluded Midtown. Like others before me have explained, the fact that most of the people who are crime victims come from elsewhere means that it should not follow the same crime rate formula as other neighborhoods. It's absolutely misleading people into thinking Midtown is something it's not, dangerous. If you want accurate statistics for Midtown, you'd need to use every person who VISITS + every person who LIVES there as the population amount. If the same amount of people visit Brownsville as they do Midtown, Brownsville would probably be the most dangerous place in the world. All you have to do is visit Washington Heights, and visit Midtown, to realize how much more dangerous Washington Heights is as compared to Midtown. While im on it, this article really tries to hype up Washington Heights. If you just take violent crimes and shootings, Wash Heights comes out to be among the worst in Manhattan. It places,
42nd out of 69th in safety, which is pretty bad, and out of 22 precincts in Manhattan, it ranks 7th highest in violent crime (and should really be 5th because Midtown and Chelsea suffer from what I call the "foot traffic effect"), and 5th highest (out of 22) in shooting incidents in Manhattan.
Ever wonder why it's not in the top 10 in murders, violent crime, or shootings anymore? Well like many Dominican neighborhoods, instead of the criminals being released on to the streets again, they are deported to the Dominican Republic. This has cleansed the neighborhood in an enormous way. This has has a terrible effect on the Dominican Republic, as it has seen it's highest crime rate ever due to the 3,000 ex-convicts who are sent back to DR. New Year, new group of deported Dominican criminals - DominicanToday.com
Dominican Republic's murder rate 2000-2007 ( the first year that 80's-90's DR criminals started arriving in mass)
Notice the massive increase? This is why Mott Haven, Hunts Point, Brownsville, Bed-Stuy etc have maintained their sky high crime rates (as compared to the city), the majority of the residents and convicts are either Puerto Rican or African American, so when a hardcore violent offender got locked up in 1994, guess what happened to him when he completed his bid in 2006? Back to the streets of Mott Haven. Understand that Dominicans who were illegal and permanent residents (who made of the vast majority of Washington Heights back 20-30 years) who were the criminals causing all the mayhem, are now raising hell in the Dominican . This has saved Washington Heights from being in the very worst group in terms of violent crime.
Anyways, that's all for now. Don't believe the Hype!
You people are pretty new at this it seems. Don't look at total crime please. All you need to look at is VIOLENT CRIME. These are the most dangerous neighborhoods in NYC.
1.) Hunts Point (I've been telling everyone for years that it has more crime than Brownsville.)
2. Brownsville
3.) Bed-Stuy
4.) Mott Haven
5.) East Tremont
6.) Central Harlem
7.) East NY
8.) Morrisania
9.) East Harlem
10.) Jamaica
I excluded Midtown. Like others before me have explained, the fact that most of the people who are crime victims come from elsewhere means that it should not follow the same crime rate formula as other neighborhoods. It's absolutely misleading people into thinking Midtown is something it's not, dangerous. If you want accurate statistics for Midtown, you'd need to use every person who VISITS + every person who LIVES there as the population amount. If the same amount of people visit Brownsville as they do Midtown, Brownsville would probably be the most dangerous place in the world. All you have to do is visit Washington Heights, and visit Midtown, to realize how much more dangerous Washington Heights is as compared to Midtown. While im on it, this article really tries to hype up Washington Heights. If you just take violent crimes and shootings, Wash Heights comes out to be among the worst in Manhattan. It places,
42nd out of 69th in safety, which is pretty bad, and out of 22 precincts in Manhattan, it ranks 7th highest in violent crime (and should really be 5th because Midtown and Chelsea suffer from what I call the "foot traffic effect"), and 5th highest (out of 22) in shooting incidents in Manhattan.
Ever wonder why it's not in the top 10 in murders, violent crime, or shootings anymore? Well like many Dominican neighborhoods, instead of the criminals being released on to the streets again, they are deported to the Dominican Republic. This has cleansed the neighborhood in an enormous way. This has has a terrible effect on the Dominican Republic, as it has seen it's highest crime rate ever due to the 3,000 ex-convicts who are sent back to DR. New Year, new group of deported Dominican criminals - DominicanToday.com
Dominican Republic's murder rate 2000-2007 ( the first year that 80's-90's DR criminals started arriving in mass)
Notice the massive increase? This is why Mott Haven, Hunts Point, Brownsville, Bed-Stuy etc have maintained their sky high crime rates (as compared to the city), the majority of the residents and convicts are either Puerto Rican or African American, so when a hardcore violent offender got locked up in 1994, guess what happened to him when he completed his bid in 2006? Back to the streets of Mott Haven. Understand that Dominicans who were illegal and permanent residents (who made of the vast majority of Washington Heights back 20-30 years) get deported back into DR. This has saved Washington Heights and has screwed the south Bronx.
Anyways, that's all for now. Don't believe the Hype!
I'd be worried about the future of the west bronx since many Dominicans who are on section8 are moving over to the Bronx from Washington Heights because landlords are no longer taking taht program anymore, this explains some reason for gentrification of the Heights. Many Dominican famlies on section8 have members who are involved in drug trade and gang activity which plauge many Bronx streets north of Yankee Stadium. I see it all the time. As for Mott Haven the Rican population has declined in Mott Haven while Dominican and Mexican population rises, most of the crime in the 40th precinct are comitted by Black Americans and tehy are a minority in Mott Haven according to an officer I know in that Precinct.
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