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I totally agree that hipsters PREFER to gentrify a dangerous, seedy, crime-ridden neighborhood rather than a relatively safe one!
Look at Bushwick, Bed-Stuy, the SOUTH BRONX!!, etc.
Meanwhile they will bypass safer neighborhoods (that are equally inexpensive or even cheaper) like Glendale, Midwood, Riverdale - they will even choose Bushwick over Ridgewood, even though the two neighborhoods are next door to each other and Ridgewood is far safer!
It depends on the part of Bushwick and Ridgewood. Some parts of Ridgewood are chosen over some parts of Bushwick. Some don't even realize they are in one neighborhood verse the other. Same for parts of Glendale that can be thought of as still being in Ridgewood.
The only ENY L train stops white people get off at are Broadway Junction and Atlantic ave to transfer to the J/Z, A/C, or LIRR. On very rare occasion you might see one get off at Livonia to catch the 3 on Junius.
To be fair it was Atlantic Ave, but some of them were headed East. And one time I went all the way to Canarsie and saw 1 or 2 white people.
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Originally Posted by Shoshanarose
I totally agree that hipsters PREFER to gentrify a dangerous, seedy, crime-ridden neighborhood rather than a relatively safe one!
Look at Bushwick, Bed-Stuy, the SOUTH BRONX!!, etc.
Meanwhile they will bypass safer neighborhoods (that are equally inexpensive or even cheaper) like Glendale, Midwood, Riverdale - they will even choose Bushwick over Ridgewood, even though the two neighborhoods are next door to each other and Ridgewood is far safer!
The parts of Bushwick along the L are not that seedy, it's like Williamsburg lite at this point. It's gritty, but it does not feel like a dangerous neighborhood.
And yeah like Gdale said a lot of them are in fact moving into Ridgewood, the Halsey L stop is actually in Ridgewood.
It's really all about location, sure a 22 year old hipster could live in Boro Park versus Bushwick but why would they?
Yeah I don't understand it. Even before South Bronx was talked about I was thinking Bay Ridge, Kensington, etc. especially since I worked in Brooklyn at the time.
Kensington has its share of hipsters (nearby Cortelyou Road in Flatbush is hipster to the max), but Bay Ridge is at the ens of the R train and thus not very convenient to Manhattan or North Brooklyn.
Plus Bay Ridge has a reputation for being conservative.
To be fair it was Atlantic Ave, but some of them were headed East. And one time I went all the way to Canarsie and saw 1 or 2 white people.
The parts of Bushwick along the L are not that seedy, it's like Williamsburg lite at this point. It's gritty, but it does not feel like a dangerous neighborhood.
And yeah like Gdale said a lot of them are in fact moving into Ridgewood, the Halsey L stop is actually in Ridgewood.
It's really all about location, sure a 22 year old hipster could live in Boro Park versus Bushwick but why would they?
80 pound white girls walk around Bushwick at 4AM now, I would say safety there is not a big issue (at least along the L train). I've been going to Bushwick a lot lately and to be honest, it certainly doesn't have that "bad neighborhood" feel that you get while walking around Brownsville or East New York.
And yeah Boro Park may be low crime, but to the average person my age who's not a Hasidic Jew, it's boring. Not that one needs to be at the center of excitement, but the average hipster would rather be around other hipsters if possible, and close to North Brooklyn/Lower Manhattan.
80 pound white girls walk around Bushwick at 4AM now, I would say safety there is not a big issue (at least along the L train). I've been going to Bushwick a lot lately and to be honest, it certainly doesn't have that "bad neighborhood" feel that you get while walking around Brownsville or East New York.
And yeah Boro Park may be low crime, but to the average person my age who's not a Hasidic Jew, it's boring. Not that one needs to be at the center of excitement, but the average hipster would rather be around other hipsters if possible, and close to North Brooklyn/Lower Manhattan.
Why area by Manhattan Bridge is depressing and homeless people everywhere in Manhattan
I know I was talking about lower east side/east village there huge homeless problem there
Oh okay
I'm not sure, I've seen a lot of homeless around EV too. And Union Square. I think that just happens to be a place a lot of homeless people go.
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