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Old 10-01-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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What was supposed to be a nice PR a stunt for his campaign to paint the mayor as someone who listens to all voices, turned into a fiasco Thursday night. Dozens of community members were ejected from the townhall for speaking against the mayors rezoning plan for east Harlem. Dozens more were not allowed in and had to protest from outside. Community residents called the mayor out for pandering to his developer buddies by trying to upzone east Harlem and bring in luxury market rate housing development with the idea that a small portion of the units built would be affordable. Many people in the community were against the Rezoning because they know that an influx of market rate units will gentrify the neighborhood, raise up the average neighborhood rent, and push poor and working class families out to make way for the wealthy.

East Harlem residents get rowdy at mayor's rezoning town hall
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Old 10-01-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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What was supposed to be a nice PR a stunt for his campaign to paint the mayor as someone who listens to all voices, turned into a fiasco Thursday night. Dozens of community members were ejected from the townhall for speaking against the mayors rezoning plan for east Harlem. Dozens more were not allowed in and had to protest from outside. Community residents called the mayor out for pandering to his developer buddies by trying to upzone east Harlem and bring in luxury market rate housing development with the idea that a small portion of the units built would be affordable. Many people in the community were against the Rezoning because they know that an influx of market rate units will gentrify the neighborhood, raise up the average neighborhood rent, and push poor and working class families out to make way for the wealthy.

East Harlem residents get rowdy at mayor's rezoning town hall
Cant please everybody.....it takes money to maintain those old archaic tenements, and if the LL doesn't have enough money to take care of them properly, then they should turn it over to somebody who can and wants to - bottom line is that people are going to get priced out of East Harlem, no matter what happens.
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Old 10-01-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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Cant please everybody....
One time.


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Old 10-01-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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Cant please everybody.....it takes money to maintain those old archaic tenements, and if the LL doesn't have enough money to take care of them properly, then they should turn it over to somebody who can and wants to - bottom line is that people are going to get priced out of East Harlem, no matter what happens.
Of course you can smuggly say this because you aren't being priced out the Rockaways at the moment........

Landlords don't just turn properties over either. They sell, if the price is right.

To the extent we have housing laws in NYC that protect tenants at all, it's because people fought for them. Not just said oh well. But it's the poor masses who fought.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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To the extent we have housing laws in NYC that protect tenants at all, it's because people fought for them. Not just said oh well. But it's the poor masses who fought.
Much of that has to do with a different time period/era, different demographics, and under a different type of crisis.
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Old 10-01-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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Cant please everybody.....it takes money to maintain those old archaic tenements, and if the LL doesn't have enough money to take care of them properly, then they should turn it over to somebody who can and wants to
Literally what does this have to do with anything in this thread?


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bottom line is that people are going to get priced out of East Harlem, no matter what happens.
Oh so smugly said by the guy living in Mitchell lama so it doesn't effect him...
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Old 10-01-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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Am not sure why *now* everyone is running their mouths about something that was obvious sometime ago. De Blasio is building housing that isn't really *affordable* for the middle class or the poor. East Harlem has several new buildings going up, and most of them will require someone to make $80,000 - 100,000+ a year to afford a one bedroom. Anything new going up will be that way, and Melissa Mark-Viverito will continue to support the mayor no matter what, even though his policies are pricing out the very constituents she claims she represents. At the end of the day, so can run her mouth about affordable housing or whatever, but she isn't being priced out of anything.
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Old 10-01-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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Literally what does this have to do with anything in this thread?




Oh so smugly said by the guy living in Mitchell lama so it doesn't effect him...
It has everything to do with it, based on your last sentence:

"Many people in the community were against the Rezoning because they know that an influx of market rate units will gentrify the neighborhood, raise up the average neighborhood rent, and push poor and working class families out to make way for the wealthy."

Bed-Stuy didn't get re-zoned, and look at it now. So one way or another, it's gonna happen. Whether EH gets re-zoned or not, Manhattan is running out of room, so if you don't allow the 30 story skyscrapers to get built, the available inventory will prolly go even faster!

And by your last sentence, I guess only renters are allowed to comment on this thread, so I will bid this thread adieu.
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Old 10-01-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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It has everything to do with it, based on your last sentence:

"Many people in the community were against the Rezoning because they know that an influx of market rate units will gentrify the neighborhood, raise up the average neighborhood rent, and push poor and working class families out to make way for the wealthy."

Bed-Stuy didn't get re-zoned, and look at it now. So one way or another, it's gonna happen. Whether EH gets re-zoned or not, Manhattan is running out of room, so if you don't allow the 30 story skyscrapers to get built, the available inventory will prolly go even faster!

And by your last sentence, I guess only renters are allowed to comment on this thread, so I will bid this thread adieu.
*LOL* East Harlem still has *some cheap* property and the developers are getting their hands on whatever they can get, building it and charging $2,300 for a one bedroom. Most residents in Harlem are not making anywhere close to $50,000, let alone $100,000, so yes many will be pushed out.

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Old 10-01-2017, 06:49 PM
 
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*LOL* East Harlem still has *some cheap* property and the developers are getting thier hands on whatever they can get, building it and charging $2,300 for a one bedroom. Most residents in Harlem are not making anywhere close to $50,000, let alone $100,000, so yes many will be pushed out.
Exactly....so I don't know why everybody was mad at that meeting, they should have realized its gonna happen regardless of the re-zoning or not. If I was them I would be all over the re-zoning, its their only chance to move into "affordable" new construction. They already have the CB preference.
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